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And... Fancy Amigo (for testmating purposes) is a litter brother of Striker Light's dam Pretty Fancy CLICK HERE
And looking through litters in GRV I see William McMahon has used Bernardo on Utopia! EXTERNAL LINK
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 15 Jan 2021 19:44
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See The Dream Syndicate owns Utopia !
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 15 Jan 2021 22:43
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Nicholas de la roche wrote:
Few LKS Vespar straws in aust. By - KC and all Damline contains representation Same as kinloch.
https:/ CLICK HERE Not the same direct damline as Kniloch Brae. Interesting 3 X 5 Dutch Bahama. Representation enhances pedigree Dam thrown Open racers. Fifth dam 2 X 4 Rocket Jet X Gorgeous Babe https:/ CLICK HERE
Graeme Beasley Australia (Verified User) Posts 3265 Dogs 27 / Races 5 16 Jan 2021 05:38
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Mark Staines wrote:
See The Dream Syndicate owns Utopia !
I was considering contacting them to see if I could use her to KC and All just a couple weeks ago, not realising his straws were hard to come by (and expensive) and not realising WM had used her with the same thing in mind. I even spoke with Kerri about it, but we're both pretty much out of the sport now so it was really just an idea.
Vincent J Lund United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 600 Dogs 23 / Races 0 16 Jan 2021 06:42
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Graeme Beasley wrote:
Mark Staines wrote:
See The Dream Syndicate owns Utopia !
I was considering contacting them to see if I could use her to KC and All just a couple weeks ago, not realising his straws were hard to come by (and expensive) and not realising WM had used her with the same thing in mind. I even spoke with Kerri about it, but we're both pretty much out of the sport now so it was really just an idea.
I have the one and only KC vial in this part of the World and i am keen to use it this year. However it is giving me big problems because non of my females have ended up being good enough to use it on so far . I have been offered females but i really don't want to risk it with anything less than the best .Also i am reluctant to sell firstly because i would prefer pups secondly with it being the only one there is no return.So if things went wrong it might cause problems or at least bad blood due to the value. There is another problem here in that if i approached owners of top females the likely hood is the owners wouldn't get how good KC And All can be.Possibly never even heard of him. Some ideas on suitable match's would be useful in case i have missed something..
Wade Gallagher Australia (Verified User) Posts 372 Dogs 117 / Races 0 20 Jan 2021 07:31
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Vincent J Lund wrote:
Graeme Beasley wrote:
Mark Staines wrote:
See The Dream Syndicate owns Utopia !
I was considering contacting them to see if I could use her to KC and All just a couple weeks ago, not realising his straws were hard to come by (and expensive) and not realising WM had used her with the same thing in mind. I even spoke with Kerri about it, but we're both pretty much out of the sport now so it was really just an idea.
I have the one and only KC vial in this part of the World and i am keen to use it this year. However it is giving me big problems because non of my females have ended up being good enough to use it on so far . I have been offered females but i really don't want to risk it with anything less than the best .Also i am reluctant to sell firstly because i would prefer pups secondly with it being the only one there is no return.So if things went wrong it might cause problems or at least bad blood due to the value. There is another problem here in that if i approached owners of top females the likely hood is the owners wouldn't get how good KC And All can be.Possibly never even heard of him. Some ideas on suitable match's would be useful in case i have missed something..
Yes, it is hard to find suitable bitches for straws that are hard to obtain. I'm not sure how many are left in Australia but it wouldn't be many.
Vincent J Lund United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 600 Dogs 23 / Races 0 20 Jan 2021 07:54
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Wade Gallagher wrote:
Vincent J Lund wrote:
Graeme Beasley wrote:
Mark Staines wrote:
See The Dream Syndicate owns Utopia !
I was considering contacting them to see if I could use her to KC and All just a couple weeks ago, not realising his straws were hard to come by (and expensive) and not realising WM had used her with the same thing in mind. I even spoke with Kerri about it, but we're both pretty much out of the sport now so it was really just an idea.
I have the one and only KC vial in this part of the World and i am keen to use it this year. However it is giving me big problems because non of my females have ended up being good enough to use it on so far . I have been offered females but i really don't want to risk it with anything less than the best .Also i am reluctant to sell firstly because i would prefer pups secondly with it being the only one there is no return.So if things went wrong it might cause problems or at least bad blood due to the value. There is another problem here in that if i approached owners of top females the likely hood is the owners wouldn't get how good KC And All can be.Possibly never even heard of him. Some ideas on suitable match's would be useful in case i have missed something..
Yes, it is hard to find suitable bitches for straws that are hard to obtain. I'm not sure how many are left in Australia but it wouldn't be many.
Certainly looks that way but going back to your Original question. Although I cannot answer it directly . I can say that when researching KC a few years ago the Americans were telling me . That he nicked with Fortress but appeared to work nicely with Brett Lee as well . I think that was possibly before Striker Light . I think such as Brian Witt and Dennis McKeon might be able to shed more light on the potential crosses. KC now has 4 Sons available at stud here in the UK and Ireland .
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 21 Jan 2021 01:29
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Actually Brian Witt was the reason I used him when he wrote about his unbelievable stats on here and now I cant remember which thread it was on. Cheers Ted.
Vincent J Lund United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 600 Dogs 23 / Races 0 23 Jan 2021 16:20
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Edward (Ted) Howard wrote:
Actually Brian Witt was the reason I used him when he wrote about his unbelievable stats on here and now I cant remember which thread it was on. Cheers Ted.
Brians comments stood the test of time didn't they !
Taken from "KC And Alls" Top Offspring page on data. The top performers in the offspring of the Sire KC and All From the 3465 offspring 795 (23%) did run in major/feature races = 7591.5 points
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 24 Jan 2021 09:54
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I remember one of the stats was out of 30 top races for year Kc and Alls won nine of them with very few progeny.
Wade Gallagher Australia (Verified User) Posts 372 Dogs 117 / Races 0 28 Feb 2021 05:32
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Aston Rupee was huge last night at The Meadows. I think we'll have another son of KC And All to choose from in the future, what a sire!
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
