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Chris Ashworth Australia (Verified User) Posts 162 Dogs 23 / Races 0 07 Oct 2021 03:49
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Hi all I have been in greyhound racing for almost fifty years and lately I have noticed that there are a lot of iffy, or non-chasers going around. I have a bitch that I would like to breed with and I was interested to hear what current sires people consider to produce the hardest chasers, through observation or preferably personal experience. My bitch was a very honest chaser that could lead or come from behind. Your opinions would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Oct 2021 04:13
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All depends on her breeding. I'm hearing real good reports for chase on Beast Unleashed
Jakota Rohde Australia (Verified User) Posts 163 Dogs 1 / Races 0 07 Oct 2021 06:28
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A lot of your American lines are providing plenty of chase. As a general rule, Go wild teddy up close in a pedigree is a good chase line also.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 07 Oct 2021 09:18
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Jakota Rohde wrote:
A lot of your American lines are providing plenty of chase. As a general rule, Go wild teddy up close in a pedigree is a good chase line also.
Two words. Djays Octane
The majority of the branches from that Flying Penske sire line huge questions over them chase wise.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 07 Oct 2021 09:21
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Chris Ashworth wrote:
Hi all I have been in greyhound racing for almost fifty years and lately I have noticed that there are a lot of iffy, or non-chasers going around. I have a bitch that I would like to breed with and I was interested to hear what current sires people consider to produce the hardest chasers, through observation or preferably personal experience. My bitch was a very honest chaser that could lead or come from behind. Your opinions would be much appreciated.
Cheers
The dogs of today aren't getting the reason to chase like they did back in the day.
We got too focused on speed and forgot about chase.
Jakota Rohde Australia (Verified User) Posts 163 Dogs 1 / Races 0 07 Oct 2021 20:51
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I think the Kc and All sire line is probably one of the best chasing sire lines we have in aus. More to the point I was getting at. At the end of the day, there are certain sires whos damlines are in abundance with poor chase. Its those you need to look out for especially
Robert Conway Australia (Verified User) Posts 461 Dogs 4 / Races 0 07 Oct 2021 22:22
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orson allan beast unleashed my redeemer worm burner
as a breaker these seem to stand out and are easy to break in. there are exceptions to the rule.
natural chase is the priority when breeding now.times are tough.
Noel Clark Australia (Verified User) Posts 1 Dogs 16 / Races 0 07 Oct 2021 22:31
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hostile was a hard chaser
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Oct 2021 23:08
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Queensland have a sire thats throwing hard chasers.
https:/ CLICK HERE Checkout his damline. Although his sired a small amount of bitches his produced hard chasing dogs. I wonder what his % is ?
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Oct 2021 02:59
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The stats published by state authorities don't show any particular change in non-chasing (not all states, of course).
What might be more revealing is regular publishing of the proportion of progeny which make it to the racetrack versus those which don't. They could be divided up into City winners or Any wins. I believe this is available for horses.
Chris Ashworth Australia (Verified User) Posts 162 Dogs 23 / Races 0 08 Oct 2021 03:38
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Hi Bruce I hear what you are saying. I often go into the GRV website and check out sires to see how many of their progeny are not named or don't reach the track..but it's a long process and it would be very helpful to have these statistics published. I understand that there can be numerous reasons for this and It is not always the fault of the sire line. it just appears to me that with litters I have bred over the last few years I seem to have more pups that lack the natural instinct to chase hard.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 08 Oct 2021 04:28
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Graham Moscow wrote:
Queensland have a sire thats throwing hard chasers.
https:/ CLICK HERE Checkout his damline. Although his sired a small amount of bitches his produced hard chasing dogs. I wonder what his % is ?
Chris Ashworth Australia (Verified User) Posts 162 Dogs 23 / Races 0 08 Oct 2021 22:49
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Thanks Graham I'll certainly check him out
Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Oct 2021 01:30
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Yes agree Jakota, but GWT line is predominately a sire line. So if looking to continue a dam line would not my first choice. Hardest chasing sire line imho is Magic Sprite ie Brett Lee. Dr Alex Hauler told me out of all the group dogs he ever worked on, BL was out&out the hardest chaser he had "ever" worked on.
Robert Conway Australia (Verified User) Posts 461 Dogs 4 / Races 0 09 Oct 2021 06:00
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it goes without saying the bitch is the main reason to get a top dog.
i think when looking for a sire things i check are proven , fast early and strong , no stewards reports , litter all named,performance of the litter. Temperment is important. physical look and size.
everyone their own idea.
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 09 Oct 2021 06:26
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A lesson I learned the hard way is never use a non-chasing bitch.
Hayden Gilders Australia (Verified User) Posts 993 Dogs 29 / Races 0 09 Oct 2021 06:42
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My experience fwiw as a mere observor is that there is mor than a few fernando bitches that although appear to be keen by themselves tend to race very wide when in a field. I believe that this trait is prominent in some second fb off spring from his sons also. But in the ladt couple of years in vic covid restrictions on half field trials probably dont help. Old threads threads on this forum say that not all barcias are that sincere either. Kc and all descendants might be able to run a bit butappear to be less than robust
Mark William Claxton Australia (Verified User) Posts 958 Dogs 0 / Races 0 09 Oct 2021 06:42
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Yes, agree Ted. But there is a difference between non chasing and not a 100% chaser.
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Oct 2021 14:26
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Only breed from bitches that can run fast times, win & chase hard from middle draws in higher grade races than a 5th grade & come from a good litter , have bloodlines that CONSISTENTLY over every generation throw quality racers preferably group types or at least multiple wins in town. You have to be brutally honest of your bitches overall ability etc etc cos breeding is very expensive & depending on your financial state how many pups you intend to keep in a litter & who will possibly buy them. Buyers with good money to outlay want plenty of quality when looking to buy pups & they will judge your brood bitch harsher than you do trust me. Just a comment. All the best.
Matthew Johnson United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 19 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Oct 2021 15:42
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I agree. Only breed from fast bitches. Hard chasing dogs is down to the rearing not necessarily the stud dog. They all have the natural instinct, you just gotta bring it out. Study the female line and work out which stud complements her and the distance you want. Aston Dee bee ticks a lot of boxes for matching up
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
