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Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 06 Mar 2023 05:57
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Graham Moscow wrote:
Im interested in opinions What would you classify this pedigree ? Out cross? Partial out cross or line breeding First four generations in black. Note JTB and Brett Lee half brothers
To highlight just one example it's 8.2% Temlee on Dams side and 8.4% Temlee on the Sires side. If that's an outcross I'll give it up.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Mar 2023 06:00
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Graham Moscow wrote:
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Graham Moscow wrote:
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Nathan / Paul So its a Line bred pedigree classification in your opinions Cheers
So you didnt read understand the question in my post. You still havent answered correctly Just keep the destructive fabrication.
Incorrect Dixie What makes you think I did not see the proven crosses ? Because you wanted to invite trash talk.
Just because you can't see the crosses on the first page doesn't make it an outcross. Look back one or two generations and the pedigree is bristling with crosses.
I'm waiting for the comment that the pedigree has been given an asthmatic puffer, by using a sire not closely related to the brood.
Just because you cant see the crosses. Dixie is the best you can do ? You really play the Patzer
I'm struggling to see what's wrong with my comment. It's 100% true, along with my prediction I might add.
Not true and you know it.
What are you talking about? There are heaps of crosses on the 6th and 7th lines of her pedigree.
You didnt read my post question You just looking to create trouble best way you can
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 06 Mar 2023 06:11
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Like I said her pedigree is not an outcross, so therefore it's line breeding. I still can't work out why you think I'm having a go.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Mar 2023 06:18
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Like I said her pedigree is not an outcross, so therefore it's line breeding. I still can't work out why you think I'm having a go.
Hooray I got a proper reply Thank you Dixie for your classification line breeding
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 06 Mar 2023 06:26
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I'm really confused, that's why I started the thread. Outcrossing will be almost impossible in the future. I honestly wasn't stirring the pot in this case.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 06 Mar 2023 06:33
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I can see the sires with old blood making a serious come back
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Mar 2023 06:34
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Paul Dicks wrote:
I'm really confused, that's why I started the thread. Outcrossing will be almost impossible in the future. I honestly wasn't stirring the pot in this case.
I agree Mr Dixie Its impossible but still a good topic The impossibility always invites radical and unthinkable solutions Its probably something we will not see the end result due to future survival of industry
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 06 Mar 2023 07:32
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They're priced accordingly but there's a Where's Pedro and Spiral Nakita straw advertised in classifieds currently. Provided your broodie was suitable both are absolutely brilliant sires
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 06 Mar 2023 07:42
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
I can see the sires with old blood making a serious come back
What's an example of a sire with old blood or are you Talking about old sires?
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1343 Dogs 154 / Races 139 06 Mar 2023 07:54
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 06 Mar 2023 08:01
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Sandro Bechini wrote:
I can see the sires with old blood making a serious come back
What's an example of a sire with old blood or are you Talking about old sires?
A bit of both
They mainly have damlines with sires you find back in a pedigree
With the amount of outcross we have available now and the local blood buried back in the pedigree I can see some of those becoming popular by some breeders who want to refresh their lines with older blood Examples:
It won;t be everyones cup of tea because they will be scared to be left holding all their pups as modern pup buyers new to the industry wouldn't have a clue who these sires were
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 06 Mar 2023 08:42
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Interesting. How would those options help refresh a line?
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 06 Mar 2023 08:56
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My opinion is if you have a Barcia bale broodie why not go to Feral Franky, good odds harada, mister twister, don't knocka him, Zinzan Brooke, unlawful entry, surf lorian? It still provides a different line
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 06 Mar 2023 08:58
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Interesting. How would those options help refresh a line?
By bringing forward older colonial lines that eventually will be buried back in the 7th and 8th line of a pedigree due to the proliferation of Fernando and Barcia, Kinloch Brae, Flying Penske, Premier Fantasy and other imported blood
We are seeing many dogs being bred with a number of outcrossed lines in them so those sires like Amron Boy will see to benefit many mainly colonial bred bitches going forward
The opposite will be the same for those bitches who have a number of importedlines in the pedigree close up and where the colonial lines have been set back
Its just my observation and my opinion
However, I already know of a leading breeder using Surf Lorian over a heavily outcrossed bitch
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
