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Rob Tyler Australia (Verified User) Posts 5176 Dogs 64 / Races 113 21 Apr 2009 02:56
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While I have you Mal, best of luck in the Final. I will be riding them home for you!
Jim Meletios Australia (Verified User) Posts 7500 Dogs 6 / Races 1 21 Apr 2009 03:01
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Ok Surf but what of this CLICK HERE The potent double of the Maythorn Pride dams is included with the Laudella Fun>> I'm Slippy>>> Fortress x M/Pride cross by Surf Lorian...
Yeah Mal go get 'em mate.
Rob Tyler Australia (Verified User) Posts 5176 Dogs 64 / Races 113 21 Apr 2009 03:56
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That's excellent too Jim.
Jim Meletios Australia (Verified User) Posts 7500 Dogs 6 / Races 1 21 Apr 2009 03:57
Jim Meletios Australia (Verified User) Posts 7500 Dogs 6 / Races 1 21 Apr 2009 04:48
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David Brasch wrote:
It's interesting that some are now saying Premier Fantasy is proving an influence in Australia. Interesting because his alternate sex path runs to this bitch
CLICK HERE See how she carries a double to Prairie Vixen, dam of Prairie Peg (included in this bitch's pedigree) who as we have just discussed is so prominant in the pedigree of both Temlee and Waverly Supreme.
Jim, I find it fascinating that Sunnyside Girl carries FOUR crosses of Skipping Chick ... all through different individuals.
Look at Tims Crow David CLICK HERE Ferly Gain a product of Cred Bay Rd Queen and Fool lines x high% Skipping Chick CLICK HERE
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 21 Apr 2009 04:53
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mal dawson wrote:
Dan hollywood wrote:
Forever hearing about stud dogs and all the hype, imports and how they are producing, but what about the poor bitch. I gather there would be a few about with offspring racing though what imported bitches have influenced lines in any way since the early 70's and 60's. Clonmannon Ivy, through World Acclaim, Made to Size, Fallem Zorro and Halls Northern Monalee Again through Hoppy's Girl, Bomber Gleeson, Brumby Lad and Trew Millions. Its takes longer to introduce fresh blood via a female and prob the main reason why breeders stay clear, other then the odd few. But there are others out there and just wondering who they are as it will be interesting to follow them.
Dan these are only about 6-8 wks away from starting and the first litter are winning alot of races in VIC but none are getting ground. HOT TERRAIN is going well and won the ROSEBOWL a few weeks back, but im sure a couple of the GWT will get 500 and have great upfront speed.
Thanx Mal, a current day imported bitch. I suppose it dont matter if you raced your bitch or not, you're confident in giving her that chance and wouldve thought the Hotline litter may have fared ok, maybe not this branch. Good luck with the Teddy's. This is where i bring my bloke into play with my outcross, though may produce some strong females to your line. CLICK HERE
Jim Meletios Australia (Verified User) Posts 7500 Dogs 6 / Races 1 21 Apr 2009 07:21
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Dan Mal David Mark and Rob what sire would you suggest for this bitch CLICK HERE
Seeing Fawn Whisper's best progeny was by Faithful Hawk this bloke could be considered. He's only had 2 litters born and to race so far and produced some decent pups
Mal Dawson Australia (Verified User) Posts 5640 Dogs 27 / Races 65 21 Apr 2009 09:23
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Jim Meletios wrote:
Dan Mal David Mark and Rob what sire would you suggest for this bitch CLICK HERE
Alot of angles you could go imo JIM, you could follow the LOF theme with dogs like COLL, KNOCKA, ZIGZAG DUTCHY, PADDYS FLAME or even MOST AWESOME. KNOCKA would give you a similar breeding to KATHS A STAR, DIFFUSER introduces both WAROO LASS and MAD MIDGE, but possibly SAUVE FELLA could be the safest bet with MAD MIDGE, WAROO LASS, MALAWIS PRINCE, GINGER and LOF all proven to FS bitches. but that just one angle JIM, theres also breeding back to FORTRESS or GROVE WHISPER, looking down the TP line or intoducing STAPLERS JO. could pay to go the safest approach for her 1st litter then if you have a producer you can look at all angles for on breeding.
Jim Meletios Australia (Verified User) Posts 7500 Dogs 6 / Races 1 21 Apr 2009 09:39
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Sandro another branch is proving quite handy CLICK HERE ...hard to draw comparisons I know.
Mal am still digesting tea...that lot is going to take a lot longer ..I WANT to use a Brett Lee son but am not convinced/
Mal Dawson Australia (Verified User) Posts 5640 Dogs 27 / Races 65 21 Apr 2009 10:04
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Jim Meletios wrote:
Sandro another branch is proving quite handy CLICK HERE ...hard to draw comparisons I know.
Mal am still digesting tea...that lot is going to take a lot longer ..I WANT to use a Brett Lee son but am not convinced/
this one would be interesting as well JIM, but imo stick with MAD MIDGE/WAROO LASS or at least one of them
Jim i reckon your Token/Malawi's Prince bitches would suit this dog much better than Ahane Lad CLICK HERE The top dogs over the last five years in Ire/Uk, most carry the Waverley Supreme, Laurdella Fun and Sandman crosses. We know how well it works here in Oz without looking through Top Honcho offshore. With both damlines carrying the Sandman x Maythorn Pride cross via Black Weather and Sand Black, Phoenix's dam has that extra FUN.
Dan , Jim, & others -
A couple of interesting points to note / comment on regarding this discussion, particularly in light of Dan's earlier comments.
Firstly, this is probably Phoenix Ice's 'best performer' in Oz to date; note the SIRE and granddams's SIRE in particular:
(especially given Brett Lee's known knick with Ultimate Wish / Lauren's Desire as well; plus Farloe Melody/Lodge Prince/Sand Man comes in as the bonus, and the 'import value' in the pedigree, as per discussion within this thread)
Along a different line of thinking, what about something like -
Terry Hines Australia (Verified User) Posts 394 Dogs 133 / Races 35 22 Apr 2009 00:06
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Hi Anthony, Theres great balance in this pedigree when mated with GIVE ME FIVE, since she has an outcross is there, is there any need for another close up. cheers Terry