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Cye Travers Australia (Verified User) Posts 83 Dogs 11 / Races 6 10 Aug 2009 23:31
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What current sires available in Australia are throwing the most hard chase and kill. Are their any that are consistantly improving these traits.
Ian Rose Australia (Verified User) Posts 941 Dogs 6 / Races 11 11 Aug 2009 02:32
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My observations point to Bombastic shiraz. Although I have a litter of Oxley tigers,they are the good old fashioned rip it off the arm and tear it to threads type chasers.Probably coming from acacia ablaze.
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 11 Aug 2009 03:10
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I know Go Wild Teddy is no longer with us, but he tops my list for chase and early pace. Straws of him are still available.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 11 Aug 2009 03:20
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Ian rose wrote:
My observations point to Bombastic shiraz. Although I have a litter of Oxley tigers,they are the good old fashioned rip it off the arm and tear it to threads type chasers.Probably coming from acacia ablaze.
Ian
That's the type we need.....not these steroid-pumped fairy floss sires
Maybe some of those old lines will make a comeback now in this new age of 'drug-free' racing
Scott Taylor Australia (Verified User) Posts 1114 Dogs 300 / Races 161 11 Aug 2009 03:40
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
.....not these steroid-pumped fairy floss sires
Any names?
Agree with Bombastic Shiraz. Although not for early speed, I reckon the Primo Uno's go alright as well (with a few notable exceptions).
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 11 Aug 2009 03:45
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No Scott
Don't want to offend anybody...
Adam Jones Australia (Verified User) Posts 2275 Dogs 0 / Races 1 11 Aug 2009 04:33
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Ian rose wrote:
My observations point to Bombastic shiraz. Although I have a litter of Oxley tigers,they are the good old fashioned rip it off the arm and tear it to threads type chasers.Probably coming from acacia ablaze.
Ian
That's the type we need.....not these steroid-pumped fairy floss sires
Maybe some of those old lines will make a comeback now in this new age of 'drug-free' racing
Were still about 5 years off seeing the "needle free" stud dogs tho Sandro, there's a few at stud now who "just made the cut in time" so they will get the bitches and a million or two, but with EPO almost gone ( intersting side fact about the "bank" of swabs to be tested that have been taken over the last 5 yrs ??? mmmmm ) that's the big one to hurt the big trainers then we will see real dogs racing for the 1st time in the history of greyhound racing.
PS . Going on from the EPO bank of swabs to be tested, how would a breeder go in court suing a studmaster for fraud ( or whatever the correct wording would be for the crime) for supplying a false product ??? Intersting times ahead, nervous times for some.....
Attila Sofran Australia (Verified User) Posts 472 Dogs 9 / Races 0 11 Aug 2009 06:17
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go wild teddy throws chase
John Kantouros (Forum Access denied) Posts 244 Dogs 1 / Races 9 11 Aug 2009 06:32
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Reckon you only need to look at each sires top offspring, to see the most ferocious chasers and on that basis Surf Lorian gets my vote.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 11 Aug 2009 07:26
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If you need a name, the sire that I think has kicked more goals than any post-steroid days is Collision....the majority of his stock are true chasers and that is what is winning their races
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 11 Aug 2009 08:35
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Black Enforcers pups have the reputation of breaking themselves in. Get the mix right along with rearing and your half way there. Believe me................Stevo.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 11 Aug 2009 08:46
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unless you are privy to the trainers of these stud dogs ,
as a breeder you have no idea wheather they running on merit , or whatever shit can be pumped into them , none of this appears in their glossy adds ,
even when you ask for a dvd, you cant get one of all their races , only the selected ones lolllllllllll
to me promotional dvd's by law should contain all that dogs races , how false is it to show say ten races when the dog had 30,
my self i have only ever seen one stud dog in the flesh and that was meticulos, to me a perfect temperment , and id be surprized if he didnt throw good pups , on the track he was a super racer ,
a dog no longer with us that produced good chasers was ROYAL ASSASSIN mick
Dean Perry Australia (Verified User) Posts 1048 Dogs 6 / Races 1 11 Aug 2009 10:37
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Head Honcho lines tended to throw chasers in my opinion, but a lot of them were mad or couldn;t run 500m. Light of Fire/Solve the Puzzle and Golden Currency could throw some fire into the guts.
Maybe it will be those ferocious types, the Solve the Puzzles and Golden Currency's (if there are any left) that could re-emerge without steroids.
Rob Tyler Australia (Verified User) Posts 5176 Dogs 64 / Races 113 11 Aug 2009 12:22
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Solve the Puzzle is my fave. They were naturals and tough dogs too. They could cope with whatever amount of work in the paddocks you threw at them. That is something I really like in pups. Same does for Bombastic Shiraz. Most from the Head Honcho line were pretty easy although as Dean points out, a few of them were a bit "over the top". Exceptional's were the same ( although that was a trait with his sire, Star Title, as well). Go Wild Teddy seems to be liked by the majority although we have never had any through here. Of the "new" brigade, I really like the Bit Chili's and a litter we just dropped off to the breakers by the import Ahane Lad would be as keen as any imported bred pup we have ever reared. I would be shocked if they cannot gallop a bit.
Steven Maguire Ireland
Posts 920 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 Aug 2009 12:39
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what ye think abot CRASH
Rob Tyler Australia (Verified User) Posts 5176 Dogs 64 / Races 113 11 Aug 2009 12:43
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Steven, There are not many Crash pups in Australia as he was sent to Ireland pretty early and not Frozen is available over here. I have a litter by him ( x Rylee Reason) that are 4 months old and look good...but don't they all at this age. LOL
Cye Travers Australia (Verified User) Posts 83 Dogs 11 / Races 6 11 Aug 2009 20:43
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts, I am a big solve the puzzle fan as well for these traits, I have a 5 month old litter on the ground by him at the moment, trouble is I dont think there is any more semen? if anyone has any for sale please let me know. So I was just looking for options in the newbys???
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 11 Aug 2009 21:55
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Hi Cye
Rob is right about Bit Chili....we broke in 4 and they were all mad on the arm.
3 of them broke in basically by themselves they were that keen.
The other was sent to Cudal and even though she was the best of them on the arm she was very puppyish and the penny did not drop while she was there.
A small break and a bit of one on one treatment in the bull ring and she is now chasing as hard as any of her brothers and sisters.
And still as mad keen on the bunny
Jack Zappala Australia (Verified User) Posts 1336 Dogs 16 / Races 0 11 Aug 2009 22:58
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WATCH THE WEB :D
Scott Taylor Australia (Verified User) Posts 1114 Dogs 300 / Races 161 11 Aug 2009 23:42
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
