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nose bleeds

Cheryl Glover
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Are they common in greyhounds?
Cheryl
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Wayne Smith
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14 Sep 2007 09:55


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never heard of it


Cheryl Glover
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Hi Wayne,
Nor have I,but one of them here this morning had one. She didn't knock it or cut herself on anything.
She had been moody of late.


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best get her check out very unusual


Cheryl Glover
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I wiil do.
thanks Wayne
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Hayden Gilders
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I have a similar situation (always happens at weekends) any advice

Note I'm not attempting to avoid my welfare responsibilities and vet advice will be sort but to be honest I sometimes doubt the capacity of our vets


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a few years ago i had this problem,had a dog that had nose bleeds after exercise,unfortunatly the dog died the post mortem found a defected valve in his heart my advice is get to a vet asap



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von willeboad disease



Kevin Wright
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howard moshinsky wrote:

von willeboad disease

Interesting Howard ...

Most people are familiar with hemophilia A, an inherited blood clotting defect in human beings affecting only male children. Most people, however, are not as familiar with von Willebrand's disease and hear of it for the first time when they ask questions about breeding their dog. Von Willebrand's disease, like hemophelia A, is an inherited blood clotting defect and breeds at high risk should be screened before being allowed to breed.

Breeds routinely tested are Doberman Pinscher, Golden Retriever, Shetland Sheepdog, Rottweiler, Miniature Schnauzer, German Shepherd, German Short-Haired Pointer, Standard Poodle, and Scottish Terrier.

What is Von Willebrand's Factor?

Von Willebrand's factor is a protein complex produced both by platelets (the blood cells involved in clotting) and by the cells lining blood vessels. It is made up of several smaller proteins bound together. Von Willebrand's disease results when there is a defect in any one of these proteins. When a blood vessel tears and bleeding occurs, platelets are called to the area to clump upon each other thus plugging up the hole and staunching the bleeding. While the platelets are in place, a cascade of blood clotting factors activates, ultimately leading to production of fibrin (the material scars are made of) to more permanently seal the vessel. Von Willebrand's factor acts as glue holding the platelets together and holding them onto the surface of the torn blood vessel. Von Willebrand's factor also serves to stabilize clotting factor VIII, one of the proteins involved in forming the fibrin clot.

See a short video depicting the normal blood clotting system.

When there is something wrong with a body's von Willebrand's factor, platelets to do not stick together properly and inappropriate, prolonged wound bleeding occurs. Bleeding can be noted in association with minor injury or surgery but can also manifest as spontaneous bleeding, especially recurring nose bleeds, bloody urine, and/or black tarry diarrhea.

Types of Von Willebrand's Disease

There are three types of von Willebrand's disease.

Type I
In Type I von Willebrand's disease, all the proteins making up von Willebrand's factor are present but only in very small amounts. This is the type common in the Doberman Pinscher, the Shetland Sheepdog, the German Shepherd Dog, and the Standard Poodle.

Type II
In Type II, the larger proteins making up von Willebrand's factor are completely absent, leaving only the smaller proteins to do the job. This creates more severe bleeding episodes and represents the type of von Willebrand's disease usually seen in German Short-Haired and German Wire-Haired Pointers.

Type III
In Type III, there is simply no von Willebrand's factor at all. This is the most severe form and is usually seen in Scottish Terriers, Chesapeake Bay Retrievers, and Shetland Sheepdogs. Von Willebrand's disease is not limited to the breeds listed here; forms of it have been found in over 50 breeds, as well as in cats and humans. Unlike the genetics of Hemophilia A in humans, which is reviewed in detail in virtually every high school biology class as an example of a classic sex-linked recessive trait, von Willebrand's disease is not as simple. Males and females are equally affected and the inheritance seems to be recessive but complicated.

Testing for Von Willebrand's Factor

Knowing a dog's von Willebrand's status is important clinically when there is concern about a patient's ability to clot, and its also important before breeding. With breeding, it is important to identify genetic carriers of von Willebrand's. A carrier of von Willebrand's should under no circumstances be bred to another carrier as this is likely to create affected dogs, so members of the classically affected breeds should be screened. There is great controversy as to whether carriers should even be bred at all as this will potentially create more carriers.

Classically, testing for this disease is accomplished by measuring von Willebrand's factor in a blood sample. The amount of factor in the patient's serum is compared to that found in "normal" dogs. The patient's results are compared to the normal and expressed in a percentage, thus it is possible for a patient to have greater than 100 percent.

Normal is considered to be 70-180 percent.

Borderline is considered to be 50-69 percent.

Abnormal (affected or genetic carrier) is considered to be less than 49% though these results in part depend on the laboratory running the test. Dogs in the "abnormal" group are at risk for bleeding and should definitely not be bred.

A dog may test differently on different days, when blood is drawn from different veins, when the dog is more excited, or if the dog is pregnant, so it may be necessary to test a dog several times before being comfortable with the result. This type of testing does not indicate what type of von Willebrand's disease the dog has and further testing by a technique called electrophoresis is needed to do this if you are interested. Knowing the type of von Willebrand's disease is unlikely to change therapy, thus further testing is not commonly done.

DNA Testing

DNA testing is currently available for many von Willebrand's breeds. VetGen offers testing for 19 breeds, vetdnacenter.com offers testing for 13 breeds and many veterinary schools offer assorted DNA testing including von Willebrand's. The company will provide a small kit that any pet owner can use at home. Sampling simply involves swabbing the inside of the patient's mouth and mailing the swab. Results should indicate if the patient is clear, affected, or a carrier.

Testing Clotting Ability Prior to Planned Surgery

A simple screening test often done before a surgery is a buccal bleeding time. A small wound is created in the mouth using a spring-loaded blade created just for this purpose (a Symplate device or Surgicutt device). The time required for clotting to occur is measured and should be under four minutes or so if platelet function is normal. The patient is generally under anesthesia at this point.

The test has previously been accomplished by clipping a toenail short and inducing bleeding but this technique has largely been abandoned as there are too many toenail variables to create a standardized test. That said, there are some issues with buccal bleeding time as well. Even though the spring load is standardized, as is the length and sharpness of the instrument, there is still some subjectivity in positioning the device as well as some patient variables (red blood cell concentration, blood viscosity etc.) that can influence results.

In a perfect world, a platelet function analyzer is used to measure what is called a collagen/ADP closure time. This is the most accurate measurement of how well platelets adhere and form clots but this technology is not readily available to most small animal hospitals at this time.

Suddenly Symptoms?

You would expect a congenital disease like von Willebrand's disease to manifest in puppyhood and in fact this is usually so. Von Willebrand's disease is usually detected when there is unexpected hemorrhage during a spay or neuter or when screening tests are done in anticipation of surgery on a member of a von Willebrand's breed.

It is possible for borderline dogs to show signs of bleeding later on. For example, a dog with borderline von Willebrand's factor might become hypothyroid later in life and this hormonal change could be just enough to make the bleeding disorder clinically evident. This is not a common scenario with hypothyroidism but it has been reported.

Treatment of the Affected Dog

When hemorrhage is occurring or is anticipated, as with a planned surgical procedure, the best treatment is administration of von Willebrand's factor by transfusion. Pure von Willebrand's factor cannot be purchased from a blood bank but a blood product called cryoprecipitate, which is particularly rich in von Willebrand's factor, can be. Complete plasma is the next best choice and is much more available than cryoprecipitate. Administration of cryoprecipitate improves bleeding time for approximately 4 hours after administration.

A hormone called DDAVP (or desmopressin acetate) can be helpful as its use seems to cause a sudden release of von Willebrand's factor into the bloodstream. After a 30-minute activation period, the use of DDAVP shortens the bleeding time for approximately 2 to 4 hours after the DDAVP injection. This method only works for dogs with Type I and not all dogs with Type I disease will respond

There are two considerations with von Willebrands disease: screening breeding animals so that this genetic disorder is not passed on, and identifying and treating affected animals. If you have one of the at-risk breeds, consider having a screening test, especially if you are considering a major surgery. If you plan to breed your pet, von Willebrands testing is a good idea regardless of the breed but it is a special concern for the at-risk breeds. If you have questions, your veterinarians office will be happy to answer them.



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Greyhounds are not one of the breeds with a reported high prevalence of von Willebrand disease (VWD).
However, in a recent 2-year review period (7/2002 to 7/2004) approximately 10% (22 of 216) of the
Greyhounds screened at the Comparative Coagulation Section had plasma VWF concentration of
30%.Therefore, it is possible that VWD is responsible for the perioperative bleeding in some of the
Greyhounds.The buccal mucosa bleeding time has been used historically to screen for VWD in dogs;
however, this test has marked inter- and intraobserver variability, and is not highly reliable on the clinical
setting.5 On the other hand, the PFA-100 is an objective and sensitive instrument to detect low
concentrations (or abnormal structure) of VWF in people6 and dogs.7, 8, 9, 10 Therefore, we will use the
PFA-100 as a rapid screening method for VWD; results of the platelet aggregation assays will be
correlated with the VWF concentration and collagen binding assays (CBA).6, 11
Greyhounds are also one of the few breeds in which a hemolytic uremic- or thrombotic thrombocytopenic
purpura-like syndrome has been described.12, 13 It is referred to as "cutaneous and renal vasculopathy of
Greyhounds", and it has been described only in racing Greyhounds, who are typically fed a raw meatbased diet.13 In children, E.coli O157:H7 infection may cause a rapidly progressive thrombotic
microangiopathy referred to as hemolytic uremic syndrome (HUS); this syndrome is typically preceded by
hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, and culminates in embolic acute renal failure that frequently necessitates
dialysis.14 Thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura (TTP) is another thrombotic microangiopathy that
occurs primarily during pregnancy (or postpartum) and results in embolization of the brain or other
tissues.14 Some authors believe that HUS and TTP are difficult to differentiate, and that they represent
different manifestations of a broader spectrum of microangiopathic thromboses.15 Renal and vascular
lesions in affected Greyhounds are similar to those of the TTP/HUS in people.12
A high proportion of human patients with TTP have unusually large multimers of VWF in plasma, and
lack a metalloprotease (ADAMTS 13) that cleaves the large multimers directly from the surface of
endothelial cells.14 These large multimers result in adhesion and aggregation of platelets to the
endothelium, and thrombotic microangiopathy. Shiga toxins (produced by Shigella dysenteriae or E. coli
O157:H7) induce production of high-molecular weight VWF multimers in the endothelium, thus resulting
in a similar effect in people.14
Recently, it was shown that racing Greyhounds with or without diarrhea have a high fecal load of E. coli
Shiga toxins 1 and 2;15 moreover, experimental injection of Shiga toxin to Greyhounds results in a
syndrome indistinguishable from TTP/HUS in people16 Because this mechanism can play a role in the
development of thrombocytopenia and subsequent bleeding in Greyhounds, a CBA to detect highmolecular weight VWF multimers will be used in the study.
We recently documented that 67% of retired racing Greyhounds have a soft, 1/6 systolic basilar murmur
associated with high aortic velocity.17 Humans with aortic endocarditis frequently have severe
gastrointestinal (GI) bleeding;18 this is due to the fact that blood flow through a stenotic valve depletes
VWF high-molecular weight multimers from circulation, resulting in a type 2A acquired von Willebrand
syndrome and bleeding from preexisting GI angiodysplasia. The severe GI bleeding and depletion of highmolecular weight VWF multimers are corrected by valve replacement therapy.19, 20
A similar situation (i.e.; platelet dysfunction in patients with aortic stenosis) was recently documented in
dogs by Tarnow et al (2004) using the PFA-100 platelet function analyzer.20 Evaluation of highmolecular weight multimers of VWF by the CBA and platelet function using the PFA-100 will shed light
on this potential mechanism of bleeding in Greyhounds.
In summary, we are currently evaluating Greyhounds pre- and postoperatively for hemostatic
abnormalities including platelet counts, platelet function using the PFA-100, OSPT, APTT, fibrinogen,
plasminogen, antiplasmin, D-dimer, VWF, VWF-CBA, factor XIII, and antithrombin.
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Currently awaiting pathology report. The only thing eliminated so far is Ralph wiggum syndrome (crayon up the nose). Should have a positive diagnosis of something by the week end.




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Hayden Gilders wrote:

Currently awaiting pathology report. The only thing eliminated so far is Ralph wiggum syndrome (crayon up the nose). Should have a positive diagnosis of something by the week end.


I was just about to suggest Homer Simpson Syndrome

Effects on different genders
Doctor Simpson explains that the Simpson gene is on the Y chromosome, and so mainly affects males, (the only exception to this is Homer's half-sister Abbey, who is clearly affected by the gene) meaning that Lisa and Maggie are unaffected. This was proven further in the comic, when several of them during a reunion where sharing stories about their successful lives.

Despite her above average intelligence, Lisa has, on occasion, shown some of Homer's traits such as saying "D'oh!" when she encounters trouble or misfortune, indicating that she IS influenced by the Simpsons gene, but only to a small extent.. However, many people not in the Simpson family have used that exclamation in the past. Lisa has also inherited Homers chubby fingers.

Degree of Effect on Male Simpsons
While the Simpson gene does affect every Male Simpson, it does not always affect them to the same degree. Homer's half-brother Herb was able to graduate from Harvard and start up his own successful company. He was still affected by the gene however in small bursts of idiocy and recklessness (e.g. letting Homer design a car and spitting out of a hot air balloon into the street).

Though Bart has a mischievous personality, the gene hasn't actually had an impact on his intelligence, as he plans his pranks before committing them, and was able to discover that Sideshow Bob framed Krusty and was planning to kill Selma for money. Homer and Bart have also displayed high levels of intelligence and ability in specified areas (e.g. foreign language and music) both display an incredible sense of accuracy. Bart with firearms and Homer with bowling (eventually scoring a perfect game) which they could be seen as Savant Syndrome for. In "Bart's Comet", when everybody was panicking over the comet, Homer theorized that Springfield's polluted atmosphere would prove beneficial as it would burn up the comet and sap its destructive power. After Lisa remarked that Homer was indeed correct, he claimed he was scared by his own accuracy.

Homer Simpson Syndrome
Homer has an unusual condition "Homer Simpson Syndrome" where his brain is cushioned by an especially thick layer of fluid, acting as a helmet of sorts. It is unknown whether the Simpson Gene causes Homer Simpson Syndrome, though the males in the Simpson family seem to have a thing for putting pots and pans on their heads and head-butting, suggesting a connection.

Other reasons for Homer's stupidity
in the episode "HOMЯ", Another reason for Homer's stupidity is that a crayon was lodged into his brain when he was six. His IQ without the crayon was 105, placing him in the "average" bracket (90 to about 110, generally). However, in that episode, he was regarded as a "genius."

Homer's obsessive binge drinking may also be a factor. As Homer says in "Treehouse of Horror IV", "Oh, Lisa. You and your stories. Bart is a vampire, beer kills brain cells. Now lets go back to that... building... thingy, where our beds and TV... is." However that was a Treehouse of Horror episode and therefore non-canon.

In "Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie", he tells Bart about how he wanted a bike when he was a kid, but his dad wouldn't let him. So he holds his breath until he passed out. He mentions that the doctors told him he had brain damage.

In "Marge on the Lam", he once went to a military camp for experimental testing to get out of Patty and Selma's visit. The doctors warned him that his injections would result in hair loss and lower intelligence. Homer says it was worth it.

He may have also become intellectually challenged due to low self-esteem from Abraham Simpson always putting him down. This is reinforced by Homer's statement in the episode "Grampa vs. Sexual Inadequacy" that if only Abe hadn't put him down, he might have more of a chance at being successful.


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My dogs breath smells like dog food




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Hayden Gilders wrote:

My dogs breath smells like dog food


My Breath also smells like dog food ...

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