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John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 21 Jun 2015 02:07
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Stephen Francis wrote:
The dog is an absolute freak. Extremely consistent from the boxes. Superior pace approaching and throughout the 1st turn and maintains it up the back straight whilst breaking his opponents hearts and lungs and strong enough to hold off all challengers including extremely worthy ones like Dyna Double One and many other top quality greyhounds that are finishing behind him.
A bit of topic but I wished Shakey Jakey had continued to race. Hard to believe that he was easily quicker than Fernando Bale. I don't think he would have been as dominant as he might not have possessed the brilliant early speed but it just highlights how fast he actually was. And nothing about the track being "doctored" for when Shakey Jakey was racing as it was pretty good last night.
Still taking nothing away from Fernando Bale and the freak he is and deserves every accolade he gets and the industry leaders should be pumping him up as much as possible because the industry needs some positivity!
Stephen why do people like you keep knocking Shakey Jakey the differences between the 2 tracks was last nites track was far quicker than what Shakey ran his record on Shakey had a run home of 11.33 clock it if you like FB has a 11.58.They are bloody both good dogs no fears there just different racing styles when Shakey was on the circle meaning Winning post to Winning post he blistered I have never seen a dog go quicker that and you can chuck em all in the day Shakey ran the average was 29.99 which is pretty good for a group of maidens and going thru last years winner Bessy Boo the best he could ever manage was a 29.71 last nite he ran 29.58 not quite 2/10ths faster than his best Dyna Double One ran a tenth quicker than his best and let not forget the winner Fernando Bale = Punch One Out's old record.I think last nites track was made to order for quick runs and that's what they got a track winning average of 29.71 much quicker than an average Sat nite track by 3 lgths on the nite I thought Bessy was the best run coming from behind and motoring home
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 21 Jun 2015 03:06
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History repeats .
I believe Fernando Bale could become our next super Sire a breed shifter as great as Temlee and Waverly supreme and co .
We have a look throughout history in every Country and we see trends and even more so today because of the genes we can now use to infuse our already speedy lines with longevity and strength and chase from the US .
FB has the sire line that will work with so many American bitches we now have in Australia and with the recent influx of American sires it is just right to mix so well.
Jim Meletios Australia (Verified User) Posts 592 Dogs 0 / Races 0 21 Jun 2015 06:23
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Matt James wrote:
On what I have seen:
Brett lee
Rapid Journey
El Grand senor, Miata, bombastic shiraz, el galo, whisky assassin, hallucinate, sweet it is, Nellie noodles, kilty lad, pure octane, mantra lad etc.
Daylight
FERNANDO BALE, dyna double one, my bro Fabio, dyna nalin, zipping willow, more space, double twist etc.
more daylight
the other 98%
He is massively overrated, wouldn't stand a chance against past champions.
Overrated my arse.Incredibly consistent at a pace all others cannot generate a TRUE flying machine with impeccable race manners. Flying Amy head and shoulders above a lot you mentioned too.
Ray Morcomb Australia (Verified User) Posts 1331 Dogs 6 / Races 0 21 Jun 2015 07:07
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You are dreaming if you dont include the MIGHTY Rapid Journey!!!
Also if you are going to even bother throwing Bekim Bale into the mix then YOU MUST include his litter brother Heston Bale
john patrick falvey wrote:
Your missing one matt porroroca.
Two out not in a field for mine:
Bekim Bale Porroca Brett Lee Turanza Bale, Fernando
up to 450 el grand senor easy.
IMO IMO
Ray Morcomb Australia (Verified User) Posts 1331 Dogs 6 / Races 0 21 Jun 2015 07:08
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You can call the dog anything but over rated Im afraid.
Shakey Jakey now thats over rated junk!
Matt James wrote:
On what I have seen:
Brett lee
Rapid Journey
El Grand senor, Miata, bombastic shiraz, el galo, whisky assassin, hallucinate, sweet it is, Nellie noodles, kilty lad, pure octane, mantra lad etc.
Daylight
FERNANDO BALE, dyna double one, my bro Fabio, dyna nalin, zipping willow, more space, double twist etc.
more daylight
the other 98%
He is massively overrated, wouldn't stand a chance against past champions.
Michael Bowerman Australia (Verified User) Posts 4615 Dogs 11 / Races 0 21 Jun 2015 07:17
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Jim Meletios wrote:
Matt James wrote:
On what I have seen:
Brett lee
Rapid Journey
El Grand senor, Miata, bombastic shiraz, el galo, whisky assassin, hallucinate, sweet it is, Nellie noodles, kilty lad, pure octane, mantra lad etc.
Daylight
FERNANDO BALE, dyna double one, my bro Fabio, dyna nalin, zipping willow, more space, double twist etc.
more daylight
the other 98%
He is massively overrated, wouldn't stand a chance against past champions.
Overrated my arse.Incredibly consistent at a pace all others cannot generate a TRUE flying machine with impeccable race manners. Flying Amy head and shoulders above a lot you mentioned too.
i dont like to compare dogs from times gone by, because we will never no who would be the best, but with fernando bale , he pefect out of the boxes he perfect to the first split, he perfect to the second split, and he keeps running low 29, around wentworth park, and sandown, meadows, and over a three week period, he keeps running time, i would say if bret lee and fernando bale was in the same race fernando by a nose
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 21 Jun 2015 07:41
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I can only compare what I have seen and I believe there has been plenty of superior dogs to Fernando Bale.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 21 Jun 2015 07:59
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Matt James wrote:
I can only compare what I have seen and I believe there has been plenty of superior dogs to Fernando Bale.
Matt everyone has their own Favorites but just imagine is FB stays racing for another 6 months now that will be one hell of a exciting racing career and the way he runs the bends is something very few dogs can manage and the last one I seen run the bends so well was the mighty Brett Lee.
He just does it at box rise and then extends up the back and runs the turns like he is riding on the rail with not a single flaw in his stride.
He is a super star.....no doubt about it and there is not a dog racing today who is so exciting to watch week after week ...
Shane Carter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4842 Dogs 15 / Races 0 21 Jun 2015 08:27
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People have very short memories ...indeed ...its almost a joke
I suggest people Google Brett lee & view his runs including two city track records in Group 1 finals ...amongst other TRs.... Yes TRs
Ps ...I noted that people mentioned flying amy as one the fastest ...why no mention her faster sister, Tenthill Doll...she was the only modern greyhound I know to break 3 city tracks (she broke Wenty TR 3 times) whilst contesting 3 group 1s which she won all 3 ...Wenty (Easter egg), sandown (Australian cup) & Cannington (Perth cup) ...
Brad Napper Australia (Verified User) Posts 937 Dogs 1 / Races 2 21 Jun 2015 08:33
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Damn straight Fernando is a freak, but Brett Lee, not quite yet he still needs to run a 28 somewhere. He (Brett Lee) still has the record at angle park
Phil Hall Australia (Verified User) Posts 1320 Dogs 21 / Races 21 21 Jun 2015 08:44
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brad napper wrote:
Damn straight Fernando is a freak, but Brett Lee, not quite yet he still needs to run a 28 somewhere. He (Brett Lee) still has the record at angle park
28.88 think it was
Brad Napper Australia (Verified User) Posts 937 Dogs 1 / Races 2 21 Jun 2015 08:50
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Correct
Jamie Osborn Australia (Verified User) Posts 89 Dogs 1 / Races 0 21 Jun 2015 09:32
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Fernando is still a young dog and the way he keeps improving I cant see why he wont break a few records he is definitely the best 500 dog running around at the moment and nobody can deny that he has a big future ahead of him
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 21 Jun 2015 09:57
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Fernando bale is a far superior dog to what's running around at the minute and yes it would be ideal if he had other dogs to compare him by example, El grand senor vs radley bale and the level of good dogs around at that time I believe supersedes what is currently running around now!
But reality is he can only race his peers at the time and now he is many lengths beyond them!
If you were to use him as a sire is he quick early, does he chase hard, is he strong, is his temperament ideal for the bitch you are putting him to? You would be nuts not to use him, yet the only unanswered question is how he will work with our lines being his an outcrossed sire.
Personally he seems like a breath of fresh air in a gene pool that is dwindling due to inbreeding! Back your bitch if she will throw she will throw! Look at his mum 3 matings a to produce him! I'm sure Paul wheeler learned heaps along the way!
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 21 Jun 2015 13:11
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Wish people would stop using the word 'FREAK'...
Damn good race dog of the highest quality...4 Group 1's...so far...
Champion SHOULD be reserved for ONLY the VERY best...he's IMO getting there...B.Lee IMO YES...Has the Group races ; The track records...and not a bad sire too...Yes there are others...
George Farrugia Australia (Verified User) Posts 123 Dogs 79 / Races 27 22 Jun 2015 06:01
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Rapt to have this bitch served by the champ! Due early August!
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