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I wonder with this superstar and his litter sister both being fantastic box dogs, is this due to the sire or is it just better pretraining and training from the people involved?
Anthony Jeffress Australia (Verified User) Posts 3669 Dogs 54 / Races 10 03 Jul 2015 11:31
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I think he deserves that or better, Stevo. A phenomenal animal, with amazing early toe.
On paper, KF looked a bold gamble on Paul's part; but somehow I suspect an educated choice yet again by Australia's top Breeder of Group stock.
Fortune has again favoured the brave, & I'm always chuffed when an outcross choice provides the goods!
What a brilliant dog to watch , absolute machine!!
Matt Lanigan Australia (Verified User) Posts 39 Dogs 1 / Races 0 03 Jul 2015 11:53
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Is there any straws available for him yet?
David Plumridge Australia (Verified User) Posts 414 Dogs 563 / Races 127 03 Jul 2015 12:09
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steven martin wrote:
FERNANDOwith another scintillating performance, taking out the BENDIGO CUP
Can he match the Ray Watson's trained "MISS ELLY MINT's" "straight-wins-record" of 16 wins in-a-row.
Steven, YES he can.
Kevin Wright Australia (Verified User) Posts 5708 Dogs 1 / Races 1 03 Jul 2015 13:01
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What a great dog to watch in the flesh and it is a testament to the training effort by the Daily's
Well done PAW and I hope to see FB in the Melbourne Cup heats and this dog could earn well over the Million dollars in stake money .
Hats off also to Shared Equity who ran a super race also .
FB is a machine and I don't think any dog in the land can match it with this boy and to see such a young dog come out week after week and beat the best running around is awe inspiring
This is what the sport needs at present a true champion ..
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 03 Jul 2015 22:26
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My friend Fernando ! The "beat" goes on...........
Sean O'Donnell Australia (Verified User) Posts 4262 Dogs 64 / Races 54 03 Jul 2015 22:33
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That's what I said looks to have a mortgage on the Melbourne cup as there is nothing track bound that can match it with him in the current form he is in!
Geoffrey Nicholas Australia (Verified User) Posts 47 Dogs 11 / Races 179 04 Jul 2015 10:48
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Fernando Bale can be compared to the greats without doubt. I'm in awe of Fernando Bale and also had the pleasure of watching Dyna Double One in the Winter Cup series. None better than these two at present. A dog from the Bendigo Cup series that I feel has gone under the radar and has one of the strongest underated dam lines in Australia is Breathing Fire. I think Breathing Fire's best will be around 450m to 480m. Breathing Fire's super fast dam Pretty Malaika won the Tweed Galaxy in 2011. Pretty Malaika's dam Hannalore was exceptional. Hannalore won 52 races. Yes 52 races. Hannalore won the Ayr Cup over 603m and broke the track record at Ayr. I watched that race live and can say that Hannalore was a great fast hard chaser with stamina. I also had the pleasure of watching Hannalore's grandam run her first race at Townsville. When she ran I was in awe. It was one of those dogs that you watched and you looked amazed and just said how good is this thing. That was INDIANA. Indiana was a bitch by Chariot Supreme x Karleen Brett. Indiana left Townsville in 1988 for Melbourne and would run 3rd to Hua in the 1988 Melbourne Cup Final. I believe this is where the strength in the dam line comes from. Breathing Fire is in great hands in Victoria and I will watch with pleasure as to how he progresses.
Howard Moshinsky USA (Verified User) Posts 886 Dogs 3 / Races 0 04 Jul 2015 17:03
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litter has run out 877,000 dollars so far not bad with the best still to come
Billy Ferguson Australia (Verified User) Posts 442 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Jul 2015 20:48
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I think he can Steve and if anyone wants to use him as a sire I would get a straw now before they over race him, which is their right but does not help the dog later on, I repeat lightly raced sires and dams are the better option.
Howard Moshinsky USA (Verified User) Posts 886 Dogs 3 / Races 0 04 Jul 2015 21:34
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anthony re paul wheelers choice of kelsos fusuleer as a sire with all due respect kf brought solid credentials to AUSTRALIA-hardly a bold move
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 04 Jul 2015 22:23
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Fernando is hardly going to be overaced he is still only young and once he sweeps all before him in the coming months Paul would retire him.I too have a theory on lightly raced bitches with ability being good broodies but hardly any facts to prove it.
Ian Rose Australia (Verified User) Posts 290 Dogs 4 / Races 0 04 Jul 2015 22:42
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It never ceased to amaze me the simplistic ignorance. How pray tell is having 200 starts or 20 starts going to change a dogs genes.Its very similar to saying a fat lazy dole bludger will produce better than someone that was phisically active all their life.
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 04 Jul 2015 22:57
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In fairness its a theory that the pringles adhered to when choosing sires,nothing over 40 race starts and proven or not they have been up there with the best.
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 05 Jul 2015 01:39
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As far as Sires go don't we have very similar type Sire today you only need to go thru the ones standing at stud today most have 1 thing in common they were front running speed dogs and this is what people want to breed today I know we have Fabregas and a few others that were more the Classic Speed dogs and some were sold to China ...with an honest opinion I feel we have moved too far away from the speed and strength 450m grass track dogs Can anyone tell us the dimensions of the old Harold Park dog track I think the back straight was upward to 200 yards with around the same run home
In fairness its a theory that the pringles adhered to when choosing sires,nothing over 40 race starts and proven or not they have been up there with the best.
They also produced duds, so how is that a proven theory.. No rules to breeding
James Saunders Australia (Verified User) Posts 4644 Dogs 3 / Races 3 05 Jul 2015 03:09
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Didn't say it was proven as nothing in breeding greyhounds is right but it was a rule of his and he had more success than failures his damlines show that today.But definetly not 100% fool proof
Andrew Gavenlock Australia (Verified User) Posts 195 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Jul 2015 06:41
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My old mate Tommy Woods pegged out the Temora track and said they made it the same as Harold Park if that's of any help, John.
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Jul 2015 23:58
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John McAlister wrote:
As far as Sires go don't we have very similar type Sire today you only need to go thru the ones standing at stud today most have 1 thing in common they were front running speed dogs and this is what people want to breed today I know we have Fabregas and a few others that were more the Classic Speed dogs and some were sold to China ...with an honest opinion I feel we have moved too far away from the speed and strength 450m grass track dogs Can anyone tell us the dimensions of the old Harold Park dog track I think the back straight was upward to 200 yards with around the same run home
Hey Soss ! Can't find the exact track dimensions of H.P but that's really irrelevant as I understand where u r coming from m8. From my memory in the past ALL the best sires came off H.P. U know ya self when our family bred & used H.P or big track shoe SPEED K9 sires over our top bitch's we ALWAYS got very fast progeny from those matings but when we used 2 turn type sires we ALWAYS got "rubbish" that lacked REAL speed & ability. Coincidence I don't think so. I personally WILL NEVER use a 2 turn type K9 sire & WILL ALWAYS go 4 a big track SPEED K9 sire over any bitch I decide 2 breed from & the next mating I am planning on is sticking 2 my "beliefs" on that , whether its a success or not only the future will hold. As 4 Fernando , I reckon he will turn out 2 be a fine sire as he has PROVEN 2 be a GENUINE SPEED K9 - broken Bendigo trk rec + his sec. times on 2 turn tracks are unbelievably quick, is a super hard chasing magnificent racer , hails from a superb litter & his pedigree should suit a lot of bitch's - being a partial outcross will throw plenty of hybrid vigour into bloodlines that may require that. I can see no real reason why he can't be a success at stud. I hope that he is 4 the sake of the breeding industry as a whole & 4 all the different strains of bloodlines around. Just my opinion.
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