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Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 04 Nov 2021 05:36
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ronald george hunter wrote:
How can a sire with so many faults, have his progeny win over Seventy Seven million dollars in just fiver years of racing!
Who said he had so many faults Ron. Must of missed that one.Sorry. Cheers
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4319 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Nov 2021 06:28
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Then it must be just nit picking!
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 04 Nov 2021 07:20
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Maybe, cheers
Ricky Hassall Australia (Verified User) Posts 227 Dogs 21 / Races 2 04 Nov 2021 08:34
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ronald george hunter wrote:
How can a sire with so many faults, have his progeny win over Seventy Seven million dollars in just fiver years of racing!
Where are all these faults?
I've said he has a genetic defect in regard to a lot of his son's not having balls. Do you dispute that fact Ron?
Or are you keeping your rose coloured glasses on :)
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4319 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Nov 2021 10:56
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Love how you try to "Hassall" me Ricky! No I don't deny the fact. But this is not his alone, it has been an increasing problem in the Australian breed for years! As far as "faults" are concerned you and your like seem to keep on finding them with him, simply disguised as plain nit picking!!
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 04 Nov 2021 17:47
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And if you read my initial post again youll see thats exactly what I wrote. Problems have been around for years but may be increasing. I wish people would actually read the posts before making comment. I also said he is a great pre potent sire. I hope people know what that means as its far from nit picking or putting the dog down. Cheers
Ricky Hassall Australia (Verified User) Posts 227 Dogs 21 / Races 2 04 Nov 2021 19:25
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ronald george hunter wrote:
Love how you try to "Hassall" me Ricky! No I don't deny the fact. But this is not his alone, it has been an increasing problem in the Australian breed for years! As far as "faults" are concerned you and your like seem to keep on finding them with him, simply disguised as plain nit picking!!
'Me and my like'.......lol I've had 2 litters by Fernando.....also stated that he is a champion sire. How dare I say he has a genetic defect!
What's been your experiences with him Ron?
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4319 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Nov 2021 21:05
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Ho Hum, there's hope for the dumb! The greatest experience ever.
Ricky Hassall Australia (Verified User) Posts 227 Dogs 21 / Races 2 04 Nov 2021 21:22
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ronald george hunter wrote:
Ho Hum, there's hope for the dumb! The greatest experience ever.
No wonder people won't bother commenting here.......you can't even have a decent debate without someone making personal comments.
This is my last.
Thank you Sir Ronald.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 05 Nov 2021 07:23
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Dont be like that Ricky, never give in mate. I read your comments with interest as were meant to do. Take what you will. Keep up the good work and good luck. It all comes around in the end. I see Ron didnt answer your question about what experiences hes had with the sire. Maybe his brood bitch has won eight at Wauchope. Cheers
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4319 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Nov 2021 08:52
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Oh Michael, not you too, read it slow! The greatest experience...Fernando Bale himself!!
Nathan Bendeich Australia (Verified User) Posts 1225 Dogs 13 / Races 0 06 Nov 2021 10:42
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No glory report on the top gun stayers cup ??
Yet another top liner off to NZ
Suspect chase growing , or let me guess , same as every sire produces .....?
Maybe so , but not every other sire is glorified as the best ever with no faults
Sorry to connections , very unfortunate
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 06 Nov 2021 18:04
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ronald george hunter wrote:
Oh Michael, not you too, read it slow! The greatest experience...Fernando Bale himself!!
Careful Ron, you may hurt yourself. Didnt realise he was in the centrefold?LOL Cheers
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4319 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Nov 2021 20:32
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More childish rubbish, or simple jealousy!
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 07 Nov 2021 00:33
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Nathan Bendeich wrote:
No glory report on the top gun stayers cup ??
Yet another top liner off to NZ
Suspect chase growing , or let me guess , same as every sire produces .....?
Maybe so , but not every other sire is glorified as the best ever with no faults
Sorry to connections , very unfortunate
Very grubby tactics there Nathan. A true measure of you as a "man".
Mitchell Tubinas Australia (Verified User) Posts 84 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Nov 2021 10:05
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Stewards have more to answer for that than the dog. Mark my words......
Paul Dicks wrote:
Nathan Bendeich wrote:
No glory report on the top gun stayers cup ??
Yet another top liner off to NZ
Suspect chase growing , or let me guess , same as every sire produces .....?
Maybe so , but not every other sire is glorified as the best ever with no faults
Sorry to connections , very unfortunate
Very grubby tactics there Nathan. A true measure of you as a "man".
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 07 Nov 2021 10:19
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Nathan Bendeich wrote:
No glory report on the top gun stayers cup ??
Yet another top liner off to NZ
Suspect chase growing , or let me guess , same as every sire produces .....?
Maybe so , but not every other sire is glorified as the best ever with no faults
Sorry to connections , very unfortunate
Very grubby tactics there Nathan. A true measure of you as a "man.
Needed a good laugh on a Sunday night.
Nathan Bendeich Australia (Verified User) Posts 1225 Dogs 13 / Races 0 07 Nov 2021 11:32
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Nathan Bendeich wrote:
No glory report on the top gun stayers cup ??
Yet another top liner off to NZ
Suspect chase growing , or let me guess , same as every sire produces .....?
Maybe so , but not every other sire is glorified as the best ever with no faults
Sorry to connections , very unfortunate
Very grubby tactics there Nathan. A true measure of you as a "man".
When you have a possible top liner Dick which Im sure you never have had or trained , its gut wrenching Hence my apologies to connections I know how they feel and we all bust out arses off and dream and hope What do u do DICK ?
Poeple mentioning size , testicles , chase and rearing behaviour traits Are all factual cons for this particular sire An example is an example no matter who owns it One day itll be mine
Other sires have other cons
If you wish to behave in the way you do about this sire on each offspring winner (sounding like an imbecile ! ) And then receive factual evidence through footage , events or knowledge from people who do more then watch it from a couch like yourself eg whelping ,rearing and racing them
Dont cry or put words into peoples mouths or suggest foul play You dont contain enough smarts , clearly exhibited by your past opinions on this subject
Back to your couch dick ..... wenty is coming up next wed !!!
Andrew Bobak Australia (Verified User) Posts 61 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Nov 2021 11:33
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andrew varasdi wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
Nathan Bendeich wrote:
No glory report on the top gun stayers cup ??
Yet another top liner off to NZ
Suspect chase growing , or let me guess , same as every sire produces .....?
Maybe so , but not every other sire is glorified as the best ever with no faults
Sorry to connections , very unfortunate
Very grubby tactics there Nathan. A true measure of you as a "man.
Needed a good laugh on a Sunday night.
anything with the winner? I watched the race 5 times. came up with the same opinion.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Nov 2021 11:45
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I think too much has been made of a young dog that probably shouldn't have been in that group company this early in its career anyway having a brain snap. I'm not a Fernando bale fan in any way but every breed can do it unfortunately.
One thing that has been overlooked a little bit is both the topgun sprinters and stayers had a strong outcross influence which Fernando bale being born probably helped pave the way for somewhat
Gypsy wyong is by Westmead hawk (Irish) out of a KC and All mother (American/from gable dodge line like Kelso fusilier) EXTERNAL LINK
Aston Rupee admittedly like Gypsy wyong has a very good damline, but he's sired by KC and All EXTERNAL LINK
I'm not big on Fernando Bale but he's definitely helped soften peoples opinions on American sires
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