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John Charles Caulfield Australia (Verified User) Posts 396 Dogs 2 / Races 0 25 Dec 2020 19:52
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does any one know his stats winners to pups born not winners to pups named that gives a better indication.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 25 Dec 2020 19:58
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Paul Dicks wrote:
I did a check recently and worked out 1 in every 8 pups of racing age is by Fernando Bale.
Vol 66 of Stud Book he had 10.4% of all litters born
Vol 67 of Stud Book he had 13.1% of all litters born
Average of last 2 crops racing is 11.75%
One out of 8 pups racing = 12.5%
Statistically, that's running pretty true to form
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 26 Dec 2020 01:03
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I find it amusing that a lot of the people who claim FBs success is because of the high quality of the broods he's getting, yet those very same people claim it's all about the breeding not their ability when selecting a potential brood bitch.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 26 Dec 2020 03:36
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Yep the beloved broody gets all the credit for a good litter and the Sire gets the blame for a litter of Slugs !!!!!!
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 26 Dec 2020 09:39
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4 finalists by Fernando in the Silver Chief Classic and 6 overall from the Gable Dodge sire line, the other by KC and All and the latters son, Bernardo
The remaining finalists by Bewildering & Barcia Bale
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 26 Dec 2020 13:20
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12.5% of the pups on the ground, 50% of the final field. He's the best.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 27 Dec 2020 07:35
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And WOW breaks Beast Unleashed's Gosford Track Record in a heat of the Gosford Cup running 28.88
CLICK HERE Fire Legend also by Fernando Bale finished 2nd
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 27 Dec 2020 07:55
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WOW they must be out of champion Broods Sandro roflmao
Paul Dubois Ireland (Verified User) Posts 1911 Dogs 18 / Races 2 28 Dec 2020 07:09
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Is Out of range the only son of fernando bale available in Ireland guys ?
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 02 Jan 2021 08:53
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Bad kennel dogs, terrible barkers, too small, over rated, fee too expensive
Silver Chief Trifecta
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 02 Jan 2021 09:34
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I think that Fernando is so good that breeders expect every litter by him to be good !!!! History tells us that even champion sires can throw a litter of slugs.
Darren Leeson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1342 Dogs 154 / Races 139 02 Jan 2021 12:32
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Being devoid of both Brett Lee and Malawis Prince makes him very potent for the abundance of that blood! The gears Lakeview Walter showed were superb to watch!!!
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 03 Jan 2021 02:13
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Bad kennel dogs, terrible barkers, too small, over rated, fee too expensive
Silver Chief Trifecta
Like most finals boxes win races, especially with young/inexperienced dogs. He deserves a lot of credit for having 4 finalists, but they drew boxes 1, 2, 3 and 4, Fernando bale progeny by default were always going to be in the finish
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 03 Jan 2021 02:21
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Fair enough, I'll just add that to the list
Bad kennel dogs, terrible barkers, too small, over rated, fee too expensive, he has sssooo many pups on the ground, pups only win because they get good box draws
Silver Chief Trifecta
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 03 Jan 2021 02:33
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Bad kennel dogs, terrible barkers, too small, over rated, fee too expensive, he has sssooo many pups on the ground, pups only win because they get good box draws, difficult to break in, suspect chasers, only gets the best brood bitches, he has undefined "chinks in his armour" apparently, Cryptorchidism, he has a "dark cloud" over him, his male pups are better than his bitches
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 03 Jan 2021 02:58
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Bad kennel dogs, terrible barkers, too small, over rated, fee too expensive, he has sssooo many pups on the ground, pups only win because they get good box draws, difficult to break in, suspect chasers, only gets the best brood bitches, he has undefined "chinks in his armour" apparently
*Bad kennel dogs: can be *Terrible barkers: nah not really *Too small: if you're breeding with a 25kg broodie you wouldn't go to any 29-30kg sire, if you do you're asking for trouble *Overrated: if you get poke the bears litter no, if you don't chances are you're gonna think so *Fee too expensive: no one wants to pay $6600 for a sire *He has so many pups: weight in numbers does help *Pups only win because they get good boxes: last night in the silver chief where they're all young similar ability dogs it helped, but obviously they can win from any box *Difficult to break in: can be a bit standoffish, but if they're reared right they're no problem *Suspect chasers: like any sires pups it's gonna be a mixed bag *Only gets the best broodies: no sire can throw superstars out of 1 win from 45 starts broodies. He does get his share of good broodies, but there's a reason for that *Undefined chinks in his armour: if you breed with a 30kg city winning broodie then rear them right chances are any sire will produce. If you breed with a unrraced because the broodie was 22kg and too slow no sire can fix that
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 03 Jan 2021 06:06
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Paul Dicks wrote:
Bad kennel dogs, terrible barkers, too small, over rated, fee too expensive, he has sssooo many pups on the ground, pups only win because they get good box draws, difficult to break in, suspect chasers, only gets the best brood bitches, he has undefined "chinks in his armour" apparently, Cryptorchidism, he has a "dark cloud" over him, his male pups are better than his bitches
I think Dixie by KO! (Stay down Matty, your only going to get hurt worse)
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 03 Jan 2021 08:10
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Terry Jordan wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
Bad kennel dogs, terrible barkers, too small, over rated, fee too expensive, he has sssooo many pups on the ground, pups only win because they get good box draws, difficult to break in, suspect chasers, only gets the best brood bitches, he has undefined "chinks in his armour" apparently, Cryptorchidism, he has a "dark cloud" over him, his male pups are better than his bitches
I think Dixie by KO! (Stay down Matty, your only going to get hurt worse)
Nah I'm not too worried about Dixies opinion, I'll have some fun and keep things going for a little bit longer. Fernando bale has good and bad qualities, just unfortunately Dixie will only see the good aspects for the next 12-18 months until he gets burnt by owning one of his pups
And I'm aware you're gonna be a Fernando bale fan for obvious reasons Terry
But to keep things going I'll add to Dixies list 9/10 are born without nuts
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 03 Jan 2021 08:48
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WOW wins the Gosford Gold Cup making it a great weekend for Fernando Bale !!!!!
Colin Bermingham Australia (Verified User) Posts 340 Dogs 4 / Races 17 03 Jan 2021 09:04
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Having No Nuts Didnt bother Poke the Bear ! or Cashien and im sure there might be a few others who have won group races
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