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Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 18 Oct 2021 21:43
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Ricky Hassall wrote:
If he has a chink in his amour.....its a genetic defect.
I've got a litter of 10 by Fernando......4 males. 3 with no balls....the other has one ball.
Champion sire.....but I won't use him again.
in our experience, plenty of other sires produce the same result ,,
and yes one of our fernandos has no balls ,
if we were to not use him again it would not be for that reason alone
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 19 Oct 2021 00:02
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Agree Michael - plenty of others. Wonder if Ricky has a change of heart if he gets top class pups.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Oct 2021 00:28
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As I recall Tangaloa was named as the culprit for testicular deformities. FB a 3X7 Tangaloa on his dam side
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 19 Oct 2021 01:09
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I would rather a Jet without Balls over a Slug with Balls any day !!!
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4316 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Oct 2021 01:14
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Seems the Tall Poppy syndrome lives on. He seems a pretty straight shooter to me!
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Oct 2021 01:37
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Weak Defensive posts fellas. Nobody stating FB is not the best sire in Australia. FB is the best producing sire weve had in a long time. However his far from perfect. Shame that some are scared to pin the tail on the donkey. Easier to talk up a tall poppy scenario. Im disappointed
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 19 Oct 2021 07:11
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as greyhound breeders, we are breeding for speed/endurance
we are not breeding for type (showdogs)
so along the way imperfections will happen , with any sire
no balls isnt the only problem breeders have encountered with fernando
but when you look at his stats i just cant see a reason not to use him if you want FAST PUPS, dont forget your bitch may play a part in all this , and her sire and mother
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 19 Oct 2021 09:29
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I don't know if non decended testicles is just a FB issue. I was talking to a mate with 3 male Zambora Brookie pups and they only have 3 testicles between them.
Andrew Varasdi Australia (Verified User) Posts 1287 Dogs 2 / Races 11 19 Oct 2021 11:38
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Dont want to get off topic paul but I have litter of 6 dogs from zb and they have 7 between them 2 with none. Dam just been served to Fernando now.
Cant wait for the pups to arrive. Be interesting to see what they have.
In meantime juat dreaming of my version of bandit Ned. Star on the rise.
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Oct 2021 14:00
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Our family have bred litters that had males with testicle "issues" etc etc over the decades from sires like West Cape, New Fox & Brett Lee just to name a few & it never hindered their natural ability to win races in town & on tab tracks. We never bred from them only the bitches from those litters. Just saying this genetic "disorder" as some put it happens with most sires I've heard about over many decades , a lot of it can stem from the paternal side of your broodbitch's pedigree , so blaming the sire used all the time is a bit unfair when the broodbitch's genetics play a huge part in determining a pups constitution. If the animal has natural gifted ability to gallop fast I couldn't care less if 1 of its testicles hadn't dropped or was missing. Fernando Bale has nothing left to prove as a sire in my opinion as his results speak for themselves & & his bitches & son's that will go onto to stud like Tommy Shelby for example will throw on his superior genes for the future of the breed itself. Just my opinion on this subject folks though some may disagree.
Graham Moscow Australia (Verified User) Posts 1186 Dogs 0 / Races 0 19 Oct 2021 15:03
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Graham Moscow wrote:
As I recall Tangaloa was named as the culprit for testicular deformities. FB a 3X7 Tangaloa on his dam side
ZB a 4x7 Tangaloa BL dam Tangaloa sire line
Fernando Daughter Spring Cleo now 28 wins knotched up
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 19 Oct 2021 21:06
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Graham Moscow wrote:
Graham Moscow wrote:
As I recall Tangaloa was named as the culprit for testicular deformities. FB a 3X7 Tangaloa on his dam side
ZB a 4x7 Tangaloa BL dam Tangaloa sire line
Fernando Daughter Spring Cleo now 28 wins knotched up
WOW she has some BALLS lol
Russ Forno Australia (Verified User) Posts 274 Dogs 0 / Races 0 22 Oct 2021 09:26
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Roughly, Fernando has served about 1,1oo bitches in 6 years, Barcia about 1,500 in 8 years!!! Third couldn't care less. But Ghee, that's a big head start on the rest. Numbers mean winners, always has, always will. ( yes, we do have Fernandos).
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 23 Oct 2021 10:59
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He initially got bitches because he was the world's greatest racing greyhound. He continues to get bitches at a lucrative stud fee because he's the world's greatest sire. Plain and simple.
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4316 Dogs 0 / Races 0 23 Oct 2021 11:27
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Another five winners tonight at Wentworth Park.
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4316 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Oct 2021 11:56
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Another six winners tonight at Wentworth Park.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 27 Oct 2021 12:06
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I'm afraid if you don't think FB is the greatest sire on the planet, you are just wrong.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 27 Oct 2021 20:58
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Paul Dicks wrote:
I'm afraid if you don't think FB is the greatest sire on the planet, you are just wrong.
I'll bite :)
I'm afraid if anyone just blindly puts all their faith in Fernando Bale they're setting themselves up for disappointment and financial loss
Hayden Gilders Australia (Verified User) Posts 993 Dogs 29 / Races 0 27 Oct 2021 21:28
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Matt Griffiths wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
I'm afraid if you don't think FB is the greatest sire on the planet, you are just wrong.
I'll bite :)
I'm afraid if anyone just blindly puts all their faith in Fernando Bale they're setting themselves up for disappointment and financial loss
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The raw statistics support your statement Matt
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 27 Oct 2021 22:45
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Hayden Gilders wrote:
Matt Griffiths wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
I'm afraid if you don't think FB is the greatest sire on the planet, you are just wrong.
I'll bite :)
I'm afraid if anyone just blindly puts all their faith in Fernando Bale they're setting themselves up for disappointment and financial loss
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The raw statistics support your statement Matt
No one is arguing Fernando Bale can throw a talented pup, but it's just weight in numbers. If I father 50 children 1 might go to the Olympics, but chances are 5 will have a disability (not meant to be insensitive, but gets my point across)
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