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Nathan Bendeich Australia (Verified User) Posts 1222 Dogs 13 / Races 0 07 Nov 2021 11:56
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Matt Griffiths wrote:
I think too much has been made of a young dog that probably shouldn't have been in that group company this early in its career anyway having a brain snap. I'm not a Fernando bale fan in any way but every breed can do it unfortunately.
One thing that has been overlooked a little bit is both the topgun sprinters and stayers had a strong outcross influence which Fernando bale being born probably helped pave the way for somewhat
Gypsy wyong is Westmead hawk (Irish) out of a KC and All mother (KC and All/from gable dodge line like Kelso fusilier) EXTERNAL LINK
Aston Rupee admittedly like Gypsy wyong has a very good damline, but he's sired by KC and All EXTERNAL LINK
I'm not big on Fernando Bale but he's definitely helped soften peoples opinions on American sires
Agree Matt
Which is all Ive said the whole time , but a few US sires did have the jump on Fernandos success Bella infrared , Kc and Avatar
Anyone with a zip of knowledge is all of them can be wanting for honest chase but Theres a reason why they run for 200 starts in homeland It happens when your only trying in 30 of them ? You will not beat Aust sires for hard chase and I refuse to listen to crap from a lesser then novice level moron
Tell the whole story or let others finish it if you cant due to lack off
Ps Only thing Ive learnt from Dick is he can count from 1 to 5
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Nov 2021 12:11
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Hard to disagree with that. Not that there's that many outstanding chase sires currently but Aussie lines produce the best chasers followed by Irish lines then American
A next generation sire has to emerge but not that long ago if you had a magic sprite, el Grand Senor or Barcia bale dog you were pretty confident they were gonna try their best. Hopefully a couple of Barcia bale sons can go on with the early indications they're gonna produce chase
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 07 Nov 2021 12:12
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I'm out of the game to be honest. I'm just an interested observer now. Had some success over the years, but that was decades ago. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the succeses of FB. Which is the the title of this topic.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Nov 2021 12:17
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And you're right. Kinloch brae, sh avatar, Bella infrared and KC and All (as well as a couple of failures) probably were about before Fernando bale emerged, but Fernando bale somehow made American sires "popular"
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 07 Nov 2021 12:21
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Paul Dicks wrote:
I'm out of the game to be honest. I'm just an interested observer now. Had some success over the years, but that was decades ago. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the succeses of FB. Which is the the title of this topic.
Point taken, I've gone off topic (mentioning last night's winners breeding was relevant but rest wasn't)
Fernando Bales best progeny seems to be when they're bred back to Fernando Bales damline. Which probably isn't helping his reputation at all because double Primo Uno is a very popular cross
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 11 Nov 2021 09:56
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OK back on topic. Ipswich Cup to this overblown, overhyped, flaw riddled sire.
Steve Harvey Australia (Verified User) Posts 1175 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 Nov 2021 14:03
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A great sire in my opinion is 1 who can throw a K9 as good a quality as himself & that's a tall order here but he has done that in WOW who is a paternal genetic identical to him + don't forget Tommy Shelby. So he's done that & that says volumes for his ability to throw pups that inherit his natural ability as he just keeps producing age classic & group quality K9s. Nothing to prove ! Results say it all folks.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 12 Nov 2021 07:44
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Think I already said that, didnt I dicksy . But your dead right Steve. Cheers
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 12 Nov 2021 10:28
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michael worth wrote:
Think I already said that, didnt I dicksy . But your dead right Steve. Cheers
It's all good Worthy. You know you got it all wrong saying what you did all those pages pages ago. It's OK to be wrong and made to look foolish. It's character building champ. ;-)
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 12 Nov 2021 18:42
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It sure is dicksy. You sound like one hell of a character. You beat me. Your the best. By the way all my friends give me Worthy, what do your friends give you, Dicksy or just dicks. Keep it up. Worthless is a good one if youre looking for something derogatory but I dont think youll have to many problems finding something. Cheers
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 20 Nov 2021 10:37
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I see this stud dud got 6 winners at Wenty tonight. He also jagged a few in the Melbourne Cup Final. What a chump of a sire he is.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 20 Nov 2021 21:52
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Yep he truly is a great sire Paul. Youre friends will be right behind you on that one. He has taken you on a great ride. Cheers
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4316 Dogs 0 / Races 0 20 Nov 2021 22:18
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Much aligned, but will prove the best in time.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 25 Nov 2021 17:32
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Dave Brett Memorial to FB daughter Tungsten Mids
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 Nov 2021 06:04
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Great win. Fantastic bitch out of a fantastic dam line. This dam line continues to throw group chasers and lets not forget Fernando as he continues on his merry way. Cheers
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 26 Nov 2021 09:00
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Koblenz wins the Melbourne Cup for the stud dud.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 26 Nov 2021 09:32
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The Group 1 King proves the knockers wrong again !!!!
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 26 Nov 2021 10:17
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Mark Staines wrote:
The Group 1 King proves the knockers wrong again !!!!
But you forgot to mention the Odds On favourite daughter of FB in the Bold Trease got beaten into 3rd. Let's not focus on his positive traits. Let's pin point that some of his sons don't have descended testicles and his bitches aren't as good as his sons.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 26 Nov 2021 10:20
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ROFLMAO
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 26 Nov 2021 20:07
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Congratulations to Koblenz and the Geall family who continue to produce feature and Group class dogs for many years from this wonderful dam line. Wheres Demonica has produced top class offspring to Fernando, Premier Fantasy, Westmead Osprey and now her daughters are also producing with UHJ also having a litter to Barcia which may also turn heads shortly. Floodgate has opened. Cheers
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