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Russ Forno
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This virus is not going away anytime soon. For the good of all get it done now. Connected to two dogs and informed, only hours before meeting, dogs had to be scratched because " lockdown" was occurring in trainers area. Minor hiccup for authorities as only affected a couple of dogs. (move along nothing to see here). I am 68 have had my jabs, but live in an area pre-disposed to an element of society with no regard for Australian law or our societal conventions, but have no qualms about breaking the 5km covid restricted area to do a drive by killing. Hence the COVID spread. These miscreants also have a penchant for non vaccination. So trainers get your " jab", so racing can continue for all vaccinated participants. Thank you.


Christopher Tilley
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There is a lot of community anger about racing continuing while everyone else is in lockdown. (no doubt fanned by the anti's)
With stewards,trainers,vets,handlers and catchers moving around the state to different tracks,it's only a matter of time before there is a positive at a racetrack putting all racing in jeopardy.I think its about time the authorities showed some positive community responsibility by setting a date for all participants attending a race meeting to be vaccinated,its not mandatory vaccination, its simply saying if you wish to attend a racetrack you must be vaccinated. Its up to you if you send a vaccinated person to handle your dogs or get yourself vaccinated.
Duty of Care by authorities should extend to the people not just the dogs. Given the average age of participants most should be vaccinated by now anyway but by setting a date eg; 30th October the authorities would be showing community leadership and help silence the critics.


Paul Ballantine
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Christopher Tilley wrote:

There is a lot of community anger about racing continuing while everyone else is in lockdown. (no doubt fanned by the anti's)
With stewards,trainers,vets,handlers and catchers moving around the state to different tracks,it's only a matter of time before there is a positive at a racetrack putting all racing in jeopardy.I think its about time the authorities showed some positive community responsibility by setting a date for all participants attending a race meeting to be vaccinated,its not mandatory vaccination, its simply saying if you wish to attend a racetrack you must be vaccinated. Its up to you if you send a vaccinated person to handle your dogs or get yourself vaccinated.
Duty of Care by authorities should extend to the people not just the dogs. Given the average age of participants most should be vaccinated by now anyway but by setting a date eg; 30th October the authorities would be showing community leadership and help silence the critics.

I think its a personal choice if you want to be vaccinated. Why should you be told to get vaccinated? There are covid test and if people dont want to be vaccinated then they can be tested 3 days prior to racing.
the People living in the lga lockdowns that have been vaccinated cant race so what is the point of getting all vaccinated.



Jason Caley
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paul ballantine wrote:

Christopher Tilley wrote:

There is a lot of community anger about racing continuing while everyone else is in lockdown. (no doubt fanned by the anti's)
With stewards,trainers,vets,handlers and catchers moving around the state to different tracks,it's only a matter of time before there is a positive at a racetrack putting all racing in jeopardy.I think its about time the authorities showed some positive community responsibility by setting a date for all participants attending a race meeting to be vaccinated,its not mandatory vaccination, its simply saying if you wish to attend a racetrack you must be vaccinated. Its up to you if you send a vaccinated person to handle your dogs or get yourself vaccinated.
Duty of Care by authorities should extend to the people not just the dogs. Given the average age of participants most should be vaccinated by now anyway but by setting a date eg; 30th October the authorities would be showing community leadership and help silence the critics.

I think its a personal choice if you want to be vaccinated. Why should you be told to get vaccinated? There are covid test and if people dont want to be vaccinated then they can be tested 3 days prior to racing.
the People living in the lga lockdowns that have been vaccinated cant race so what is the point of getting all vaccinated.

While vaccinations reduce hospitalisation, they don't prevent spread or being infectious as the virus mutates. It's a coronavirus peeps off-shoot of the cold. No vaccination stops you from spreading and shedding the love. Every vaccine will need to be modulated and adapted for emerging strains.

I am neither pro or anti-vaxxer.

Just whatever - that's why it is called a "novel virus".

We are all human petri-dishes right now so good luck, stay safe, play safe. Don't be stupid and we'll see how it pans out.

Vaccines reduce the risk of severe hospitalisation and that is about all.

Refer Iceland, Ireland, Israel (it was covered in The Project tonight, not what I consider informitative by any stretch) but they had a point.. record spread, less significant bad hospital outcomes.

Stay informed, stay aware.

Whether you vax - or don't - I will always respect your personal choices. Your choices are yours are yours alone so long as you own your shit. And no I won't be intimidated or coerced into thinking I am doing the greater good. I will not be told by anyone I should do something to protect others. If you are "at risk", manage your risks accordingly whether that exposure risk or choosing to get a vaccine. I am actually not responsible for others. Just my choices and my own immediate family. We all have one life to live and those decisions are ours and ours alone.

Make whatever choice you like - I'm just happy if you made an informed choice. I honestly don't care much about the decision an individual comes to. Just inform yourselves and stick with it.

Personal note of disclosure - I'm waiting for Moderna to get here then I'll get that jab and still will know I could spread and immunity doesn't last - it's just my personal choice. It is not for me to justify here or to the world and it probably doesn't matter a year from now because boosters and altered vaccines will be required anyway.



Tony Gallagher
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Jason Caley wrote:

Vaccines reduce the risk of severe hospitalisation and that is about all.

Jason you are saying this as though it is a small thing. It is a massive step to reduce the number people from dying from Covid.

I think every person on the planet realises more advanced vaccinates are going to be developed as we all know the virus can mutate.

You are right it is a personal choice but for me it is a no brainer. With the average age of owners/trainers in the sport growing we are in the danger zone.

We have lost enough greyhound people over the years from various illnesses, protect yourselves and get yourselves vaccinated.





Jason Caley
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^ I second everything you wrote Tony. Hopefully these "at risk" aged participants have taken their jabs.

But yes people should have the right to pick their poison (brand or variant of vaccine) and respect still needs to be shown to those that for whatever reason choose not to be vaccinated.

Or should we just stick a star of david patch over those who are unvaccinated and have a two tier society 1930s Germany style. The concept of vaccine passports gets us exceptionally close to a two tier society. And good luck rebuilding the economy if even 15% of the population in any country becomes excluded from participation.

All the governments of the world are trying to do now is manage money (the economy) versus the microbe.

The only real difference between an anti-lockdown protest and a mass gathering at Marvel Stadium or the MCG for a footy match is a QR code. Contact-tracing aside they are still mass gatherings during a pandemic.


Russ Forno
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I believe, shortly, that you will need to be vaccinated to trial, nominate , attend race meetings and move greyhounds around freely.Don't try that " personal choice" thing. Bike helmets, seat belts, breath and drug testing drivers etc, all things that we require of you to be part of the village. You can always try racing pigeons.



Jason Caley
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Russ Forno wrote:

I believe, shortly, that you will need to be vaccinated to trial, nominate , attend race meetings and move greyhounds around freely.Don't try that " personal choice" thing. Bike helmets, seat belts, breath and drug testing drivers etc, all things that we require of you to be part of the village. You can always try racing pigeons.

You may have noticed I said I'm waiting on Moderna. But if it becomes a requirement to participate happy to walk away and as I said good luck rebuilding anything if artificial constructs like that get put in place.

Seatbelts and helmets may save lives, the irony is you are more likely to die in a car accident or on your bike than from Covid.

Don't buy into all the fear propaganda or at least try not to propagate it. Life's a risk every day you get out of bed. That's life.

Personal choice always exists btw - speed limits and signs are just suggestions. Remember that next time you see someone doing 30 bucks over the speed limit when you are on the road. Life is always about personal choices irrespective of government mandates or prescribed penalties like fines.

Having rules and order to a structured society like all those measures you mentioned is great. With even fines and penalties. The day we have a two tier society between vax and unvaxxed, I will opt of altogether from society and become a professional criminal. Won't be the first or last to choose that path.

Race pigeons you suggest - no who wants to be a super-spreader!!!? Sure let's add Avian Flu into the mix for fun. ;)

Just respect peoples' individual rights and freedoms. Time to step off the high horse Russ. Doubt your posting had much to do with the concept of "global village" other than just comply and conform anyway. Not all people want to be sheeple. Dissent is healthy in any democracy. It provokes discussion and idea exchange.

I apologise for not falling into line.



Jamie Quinlivian
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Russ I believe you are right. They will introduce these measures.
But I am with Jason here. I wont be getting vaccinated and I will be walking away from the sport if need be.

I am disgusted that not one of our so-called health experts have pushed the cause to build our immune systems by eating healthier and taking vitamins C+D and Zinc. The plain truth is that a healthy and vigorous immune system will defeat covid every day of the week. You may put your trust in a vaccine, not me.

I saw a guy walking out of Coles the other day with 48 cans of Pepsi in his trolley, along with tim-tams, chips, frozen pizzas and a whole assortment of other crap that is apparently called food. He was grossly overweight and had a packet of smokes in his top pocket.
Is anyone going to tell me that I'm putting his health at risk by not getting vaccinated?

Sorry Tony, you want to tell everyone to just get vaccinated.
I wish more people would get healthy.



Jason Caley
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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

Russ I believe you are right. They will introduce these measures.
But I am with Jason here. I wont be getting vaccinated and I will be walking away from the sport if need be.

I am disgusted that not one of our so-called health experts have pushed the cause to build our immune systems by eating healthier and taking vitamins C+D and Zinc. The plain truth is that a healthy and vigorous immune system will defeat covid every day of the week. You may put your trust in a vaccine, not me.

I saw a guy walking out of Coles the other day with 48 cans of Pepsi in his trolley, along with tim-tams, chips, frozen pizzas and a whole assortment of other crap that is apparently called food. He was grossly overweight and had a packet of smokes in his top pocket.
Is anyone going to tell me that I'm putting his health at risk by not getting vaccinated?

Sorry Tony, you want to tell everyone to just get vaccinated.
I wish more people would get healthy.

JQ - I can't believe we are in agreement about anything. So just to be a pot stirrer. I firmly believe alcohol and tobacco are better approaches than Vitamins and healthy living to prevent Covid. I think BBQ lungs cooks it there and then. I'll deal with the consequences of smoking later on.

(This is a joke thread btw for those lacking humour - but live healthy look well Chemist Warehouse - sorry I like advertisements more than TV programs even if their ads are littered with washed out WAGS from AFL)



Russ Forno
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Bit like the anti-vaxxer Karen MCAvatee who sends her un vaccinated boy Phil to school, happy in the knowledge he will be reasonably safe, because all his classmates were vaccinated. Little Phil goes on a school excursion to Rookwood cemetery and sees the graves and learns about all the children who died of Polio, Diphtheria a hundred years ago, which prompted his question to mummy Karen. " how come the kids don't die from it anymore mummy?'



Jamie Quinlivian
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I'm not an anti-vaxxer Russ.
I've had all my vaxx shots and a few extras for trips OS.

Polio and Diphtheria shots contain killed polio or diphtheria virus.
The covid shot has no killed covid virus. It's experimental gene manipulation. Like what Monsanto do with corn.

Healthy people don't need it.



Ryan Vanderwert
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Jason Caley wrote:

....All the governments of the world are trying to do now is manage money (the economy)....

now there's an oxymoron Jason. haha
hope you are keeping well



Mark Donohue
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I hope someone is looking at the correlation between higher levels of vaccination and higher number of Covid cases. If youre vaccinated why are you worried about the unvaccinated? We both are susceptible to Covid but apparently you the vaccinated recover better. Thanks for considering my health and well-being, but I would like a choice in the matter. Zero cases in 20 months yet locked down. Its BS. The big blanket method over the entire of NSW is ridiculous and lazy.



Jason Caley
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:

Jason Caley wrote:

....All the governments of the world are trying to do now is manage money (the economy)....

now there's an oxymoron Jason. haha
hope you are keeping well

Hey Ryan - same goes hope all safe and good your side. I am thriving during a pandemic. I was made for this ;)


Christopher Tilley
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It's interesting that you get vaccinated for a quick holiday OS,your kid has to vaccinated to go to kinda, even your mut has to be vaccinated to go puppy school that's OK but to keep working it's a choice.
How stupid are those 2 million that have died, all they had to do was eat a sensible salad and an orange a day and they would have been fine.
Russ save your breath,mandatory vaccination is coming for most industries.The silver lining is there will be 2 walk away.



Jamie Quinlivian
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You should have saved your breath Christopher instead of wasting it like you just did


Mitchell Tubinas
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Theres vaccines that are tested over a long period of time that are made from the actual virus and others that they go ummm ok this might be ok. As all of these vaccines are. Actually they should be called drugs not vaccines but thats another thing.
As its been said many times if the vaccine is great like you all say why are you pushing for others that you should now be safe from to get the same thing. I dont see the goverment coming over telling me i gotta get rid the black mould cleaned off my bathroom ceiling. In fact i woulda thought if they care they might only sell a maximum of 6 standard drinks to any one person per day and do that via an app everytime you go to the bottlo. In fact they should do that at the butcher also as too much red meat is dangerous.
You know what i do find dangerous though. Taking away peoples livlihoods, destroying businesses families built up over years. Taking away peoples freedoms for a one sided government push on a 100 year old persons, dangerous health issues thats killing less than the bloody flu does each year. While were at it i wonder how many seperate people they can name died from the flu compared to usual during this so called pandemic. Now a person that lives with my son has apparently tested positive. She has no symptoms. Funny that. So my son has been tested. But he knows as others may know. If he feels sick i want him to get outta there. And i dont give 2 shits about health regulations. This is not about a disease. But you can bet your bottom dollar the government will knock off anybody they want to get what they want or dont want to happen. Just ask my grandfather that had an "accident" before my father was born. Thanks for that by the way Australian government.
Ill finish on that note. Please somebody i dare you to try tell me the goverment wouldnt do that!

Christopher Tilley wrote:

It's interesting that you get vaccinated for a quick holiday OS,your kid has to vaccinated to go to kinda, even your mut has to be vaccinated to go puppy school that's OK but to keep working it's a choice.
How stupid are those 2 million that have died, all they had to do was eat a sensible salad and an orange a day and they would have been fine.
Russ save your breath,mandatory vaccination is coming for most industries.The silver lining is there will be 2 walk away.




Mitchell Tubinas
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In fact ill go further for those that still cant use there obviously tiny little sheep brain they got. If this is a virus thats killing people how come all of the times groups of people died was on a ship together or in an old folks home together. All while civilians are not allowed in. How many families that did live together have all died but obviously seperately in hospital or seperated somehow? None. But people they segregated died in groups. Thats if they all did die. The amount of money they are throwing around they could do anything they want.
Oh wait. Now the next story in a couple days will be a family all died after they all went to hospital in different places. I cant wait for the next story.... They are so clever the media and the government!


Mark Donohue
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People are being vaccinated for economic reasons and not health reasons and have had their liberties taKen away. The government tells them to jump higher otherwise they cant go out to play or work. Shame on these governments for ruining businesses and lives along the way. Theyll sell public assets to pay for their mess and put their relatives and associates on future corporation boards. In the meantime, they havent lost a cent of their incomes and dictate what is good for us.

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