The Greyhound-Data Forum has been created to act as a platform for greyhound enthusiasts to share information on this magnificent animal called a greyhound.
Greyhound-Data reserve the right to remove any post that is off topic, advertisements or opinions they consider to be offensive.
If you answer then please try to stay on topic. It's absolutely okay to answer in a broader scope but don't hijack posts by switching to something off topic.
In case you see an insulting post: DO NOT REPLY TO IT!
Use the report button to inform the moderators so that we can delete it.
Do you have questions about greyhound racing? Do you need advice on how to train a greyhound?
DESEXED & RACING - New owner trainer
Peter Williams Australia (Verified User) Posts 8 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Sep 2021 03:44
(2)
(0)
Hi Everyone...
Im new to the greyhound game as an owner trainer, even though I have been an owner of plenty of horses in racing game for almost 40 years, but am over the grubs and Shonkie games played.
So I've changed codes and have thrown my hand at training a couple of greyhounds, who are far more honest and transparent in racing, what I'm wondering is, can you race a desexed greyhound, it seems it's a question there is no written answer too in the rules, also the few trainers and owners I've spoke to have never heard of anyone who has had them desexed and continued to race them. Is there any reason why this isn't an everyday thing or do the greyhounds just not come back as keen, once desexed?
I am based in NSW, Aust.
ALL positive feed back is very welcome....
Tony Gallagher Australia (Team Member) Posts 5910 Dogs 12951 / Races 40209 05 Sep 2021 04:04
(2)
(0)
Hi Peter, Welcome to Greyhound-Data and the sport of greyhound racing.
I think the main reason there is no information available about greyhounds that have been desexed racing is simply due to the fact that whenever someone purchases a greyhound they are buying into the dream that their dog will not only be a champion on the track but will be a stud dog or will produce champion pups.
Hi Peter. Unless they make a rule change you can. I had a dog i got from interstate who was very fast. But after trying to clear him to race a few times but constant injuries and he was going on 4 i decided to get him rehomed. I got pushed to get him desexed before they took him in. Then when the time came they wouldnt take him so i put him back into work as he actually seemed a more switched on dog than before. I made the calls and was told there is nothing saying you cant in the rules so the answer was yes. Sure enough as you expect not long after that i got the call they would take him to rehome now. Annoyed but as i had 5 all alone on a residential property and worked fulltime as well i rehomed him. But i was looking forward to seeing peoples reactions on raceday.
By the way that was GWIC that told me that.
Peter Williams wrote:
Hi Everyone...
Im new to the greyhound game as an owner trainer, even though I have been an owner of plenty of horses in racing game for almost 40 years, but am over the grubs and Shonkie games played.
So I've changed codes and have thrown my hand at training a couple of greyhounds, who are far more honest and transparent in racing, what I'm wondering is, can you race a desexed greyhound, it seems it's a question there is no written answer too in the rules, also the few trainers and owners I've spoke to have never heard of anyone who has had them desexed and continued to race them. Is there any reason why this isn't an everyday thing or do the greyhounds just not come back as keen, once desexed?
I am based in NSW, Aust.
ALL positive feed back is very welcome....
Christopher Tilley Australia (Verified User) Posts 4 Dogs 2 / Races 0 05 Sep 2021 05:07
(3)
(0)
Hi Peter I have successfully raced desexed males and females. Different lines are prone to males having internal testicles that are painful to dogs in work and are removed by your vet and they race well. Some trainers de -sex males that fight,it works with some if they aren't timid and it's an alternative to drugs if you have a 6 months bitch that doesn't react well to drugs and is not good enough to breed with. A desexed greyhound has an extra letter on it's earbrand in Victoria, not sure about other states.
Good luck hope this was a help
Raymond Peter Fewings Australia (Verified User) Posts 248 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Sep 2021 20:44
(1)
(0)
When in UK some years back, I noticed race book had 'spayed' alongside some bitches in Facebook. So our UK friends will know more. I think it's a no brainer for bitches that break in slow.
Great question Peter. I also wondered why more Greyhounds arent desexed during their race careers. Most racehorse/harness racing owners realise the chance of their horses being champions is highly unlikely and dont hesitate to geld the males. Im sure there are a multitude of male Greyhounds that would be more focused on the chase if castrated and it would remove the worry of bitches cycling or being on the pill. I did enquire about the testosterone suppressant Suprelorin when we were having issues with one of our males but of course it wasnt approved for use by the racing control. From a welfare aspect I think anything that may help prolong their career should be seriously looked at.
Peter Williams Australia (Verified User) Posts 8 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Sep 2021 11:22
(0)
(0)
Cheers Christopher,
Thanks for your input, good to know
Peter Williams Australia (Verified User) Posts 8 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Sep 2021 11:23
(0)
(0)
Cheers thanks for that
Peter Williams Australia (Verified User) Posts 8 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Sep 2021 11:25
(0)
(0)
Cheers Tony Thanks for that, it definitely had me confused as to why I hadnt heard of desex dogs racing
Peter Williams Australia (Verified User) Posts 8 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Sep 2021 11:26
(0)
(0)
Cheers Mitchell
Thanks for the info, much appreciated
Peter Williams Australia (Verified User) Posts 8 Dogs 0 / Races 0 17 Sep 2021 11:28
(0)
(0)
100% Bronwyn I agree totally
Jason Caley Australia (Verified User) Posts 385 Dogs 6 / Races 0 21 Sep 2021 01:38
(3)
(0)
Christopher Tilley wrote:
Hi Peter I have successfully raced desexed males and females. Different lines are prone to males having internal testicles that are painful to dogs in work and are removed by your vet and they race well. Some trainers de -sex males that fight,it works with some if they aren't timid and it's an alternative to drugs if you have a 6 months bitch that doesn't react well to drugs and is not good enough to breed with. A desexed greyhound has an extra letter on it's earbrand in Victoria, not sure about other states.
Good luck hope this was a help
Everything Chris just said. Raced two males that had trapped testicles removed as males and most recent desexed bitch I raced was little Salut Bianca. I paid the extra money to have laparascopic (keyhole spaying) done - faster recovery time as just removing ovaries leaving uterus and all other major parts inside the girl. My theory was leave as much in place rather than taking all to reduce incidence of abdominal tears after procedure. Never had to worry about seasonal suppressants and she was always destined to become a pet anyway. They all won races, tried their best and placed a fair bit so I was happy enough. And no delays post-career in rehoming. Saves heaps of time if you know they won't be stud material.
Peter Williams Australia (Verified User) Posts 8 Dogs 0 / Races 0 26 Sep 2021 10:00
(0)
(0)
Cheers Jason
Thats great, thanks heaps for that, its a huge help
Jamie Quinlivian Australia (Verified User) Posts 8727 Dogs 10 / Races 0 25 Feb 2023 21:02
(0)
(0)
Jason Caley wrote:
Everything Chris just said. Raced two males that had trapped testicles removed as males and most recent desexed bitch I raced was little Salut Bianca. I paid the extra money to have laparascopic (keyhole spaying) done - faster recovery time as just removing ovaries leaving uterus and all other major parts inside the girl.
Do you have questions about greyhound racing?
