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The real world vs the greyhound industry.page  1 2 3 


Johnathon Campbell
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It's 6.15pm WA time and I've stopped my bull catcher after another long day to catch up on what's happening on GData to read about more bad publicity on greyhpunds and everything around it. Beside me I've got three dogs, tired, dirty and covered in red dust and blood.
There've spent the day and many other days this year catching scrub bulls because that is what they were bred for and that's what they do.
I've got greyhounds down south and they cannot touch a dead skin or share the same property with a thing fluffy or its either illegal or very suspicious.
I hunted rabbits, pigs etc as a kid and still see hunting magazines on shelves displaying the use of dogs in there chosen sports, Deer, ducks, rabbits, foxes, pigs and my dogs hanging off cattle doing what there bred to do.
Yes there's a line in the sand that crosses into cruelty but the greyhound industry has the cross hairs pointed directly on them and I can only shake my head and pat my working dogs because tomorrow they will get a rest before it all starts again doing there job without any sort of scrutiny.
The world is a very strange place.


Sandro Bechini
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It's not a strange world, it's a ^^^^^^^^ world John



Johnathon Campbell
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Sandro Bechini wrote:

It's not a strange world, it's a ^^^^^^^^ world John

Agree mate.


Craig Andrews
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Your other world doesn't generate millions of dollars of revenue by the public Jonathan, and therefore will never be scrutinised to the extent that a publicly promoted sport will.



Brian Young
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Johnathon campbell wrote:

It's 6.15pm WA time and I've stopped my bull catcher after another long day to catch up on what's happening on GData to read about more bad publicity on greyhpunds and everything around it. Beside me I've got three dogs, tired, dirty and covered in red dust and blood.
There've spent the day and many other days this year catching scrub bulls because that is what they were bred for and that's what they do.
I've got greyhounds down south and they cannot touch a dead skin or share the same property with a thing fluffy or its either illegal or very suspicious.
I hunted rabbits, pigs etc as a kid and still see hunting magazines on shelves displaying the use of dogs in there chosen sports, Deer, ducks, rabbits, foxes, pigs and my dogs hanging off cattle doing what there bred to do.
Yes there's a line in the sand that crosses into cruelty but the greyhound industry has the cross hairs pointed directly on them and I can only shake my head and pat my working dogs because tomorrow they will get a rest before it all starts again doing there job without any sort of scrutiny.
The world is a very strange place.

Good post Johnathon. None of us like cruelty. But some of the kids ,young adults today are oblivious to the real world.If they were made do a days work like you have today and every other day they would consider they were being mistreated not even realizing what went into getting their steak on their plate at night.




Johnathon Campbell
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Craig Andrews wrote:

Your other world doesn't generate millions of dollars of revenue by the public Jonathan, and therefore will never be scrutinised to the extent that a publicly promoted sport will.

Thanks Brian.
Craig horse racing generates millions of dollars but when there's a ripple the people that could lose there millions act swiftly and the ripple cannot turn into a wave so the undesirables turn there attention into the easier target ,,, the individed one.


Troy Scott
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Brian Young wrote:

Johnathon campbell wrote:

It's 6.15pm WA time and I've stopped my bull catcher after another long day to catch up on what's happening on GData to read about more bad publicity on greyhpunds and everything around it. Beside me I've got three dogs, tired, dirty and covered in red dust and blood.
There've spent the day and many other days this year catching scrub bulls because that is what they were bred for and that's what they do.
I've got greyhounds down south and they cannot touch a dead skin or share the same property with a thing fluffy or its either illegal or very suspicious.
I hunted rabbits, pigs etc as a kid and still see hunting magazines on shelves displaying the use of dogs in there chosen sports, Deer, ducks, rabbits, foxes, pigs and my dogs hanging off cattle doing what there bred to do.
Yes there's a line in the sand that crosses into cruelty but the greyhound industry has the cross hairs pointed directly on them and I can only shake my head and pat my working dogs because tomorrow they will get a rest before it all starts again doing there job without any sort of scrutiny.
The world is a very strange place.

Good post Johnathon. None of us like cruelty. But some of the kids ,young adults today are oblivious to the real world.If they were made do a days work like you have today and every other day they would consider they were being mistreated not even realizing what went into getting their steak on their plate at night.

Steak comes from the supermarket... der!!! ;)

Very true mate, generations are getting softer (and dumber) after the next, eventually it will be considered cruel to eat an egg! But not the ones from made by Coles or Woolworths hahaha ;)




Johnathon Campbell
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Troy Scott wrote:

Brian Young wrote:

Johnathon campbell wrote:

It's 6.15pm WA time and I've stopped my bull catcher after another long day to catch up on what's happening on GData to read about more bad publicity on greyhpunds and everything around it. Beside me I've got three dogs, tired, dirty and covered in red dust and blood.
There've spent the day and many other days this year catching scrub bulls because that is what they were bred for and that's what they do.
I've got greyhounds down south and they cannot touch a dead skin or share the same property with a thing fluffy or its either illegal or very suspicious.
I hunted rabbits, pigs etc as a kid and still see hunting magazines on shelves displaying the use of dogs in there chosen sports, Deer, ducks, rabbits, foxes, pigs and my dogs hanging off cattle doing what there bred to do.
Yes there's a line in the sand that crosses into cruelty but the greyhound industry has the cross hairs pointed directly on them and I can only shake my head and pat my working dogs because tomorrow they will get a rest before it all starts again doing there job without any sort of scrutiny.
The world is a very strange place.

Good post Johnathon. None of us like cruelty. But some of the kids ,young adults today are oblivious to the real world.If they were made do a days work like you have today and every other day they would consider they were being mistreated not even realizing what went into getting their steak on their plate at night.

Steak comes from the supermarket... der!!! ;)

Very true mate, generations are getting softer (and dumber) after the next, eventually it will be considered cruel to eat an egg! But not the ones from made by Coles or Woolworths hahaha ;)

My wife has had a python eat baby chickens from her chook pen the last few weeks and she goes out with the light and shot gun at night for a sticky beck. She's had a snake under her sink just this week and my 18 month old son was bitin by a Scorpion this same week. Greyhounds on a dried skin what a disaster...


Troy Scott
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Put a lamb chop on a lure instead of eating it, now that's a disaster! In fact SHUT US DOWN NOW type of situation!

What a sad idealistic and unrealistic ridiculous world we live in!!!! :/

Millions and millions of poor and starving men women and children in the world, and people want to worry about what's going on in the greyhound industry! Priorities??????



John McAlister
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Great life there Johnathon and on a similar note they AA and the Greens the RSPCA and all these Antis and rehoming people talk about the general Public not knowing actually what goes on ...well does the general public really care when in fact they are not beyond reproach for it's the general public that send their dogs and cats to the pound/vet to get put down and how many yearly throughout Australia are getting put down yet it's the greyhound that seems to be the lovable canine that all do gooders want to save and the twist is the general public at most times are more cruel than us because they will put their pets down we don't


Steve Harvey
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John McAlister wrote:

Great life there Johnathon and on a similar note they AA and the Greens the RSPCA and all these Antis and rehoming people talk about the general Public not knowing actually what goes on ...well does the general public really care when in fact they are not beyond reproach for it's the general public that send their dogs and cats to the pound/vet to get put down and how many yearly throughout Australia are getting put down yet it's the greyhound that seems to be the lovable canine that all do gooders want to save and the twist is the general public at most times are more cruel than us because they will put their pets down we don't

Well said Soss. Pretty soon they'll have our K9's chasing carseat covers. Joke ! We all must recognise that our industry isn't the most popular around but if we all stick 2gether in 100% solidarity & do the right thing perceptions may change but no doubt there are plenty of "do gooders" around that want us all gone 4 good. Its "do-gooders" who are f-ck'n the entire world in general ! FACT !


Mark Donohue
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Sticking together is only half the battle. The other half is co-ordinating actions against the abuse and staying united when those actions have been decided by the majority (51%). At the moment, we are only providing lip service, which is great, but that is where it ends. We as an industry haven't decided the plan of action that we should be taking and who should be driving the response.



Brian Young
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Troy Scott wrote:

Steak comes from the supermarket... der!!! ;)

Very true mate, generations are getting softer (and dumber) after the next, eventually it will be considered cruel to eat an egg! But not the ones from made by Coles or Woolworths hahaha ;)

Troy I don't know if you said this in jest or not but it is a prediction which will eventualize. It is coming from a two pronged attack . Subliminal advertising by these market giants and the growing shift from an understanding of the natural world by the younger generations. Plus of course the shift in this direction by the media as they follow the money



Michael Geraghty
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Well, I have some bad news for the under 18's out there...and overs, for that matter.

Supermarkets, butchers, and all animal product retailers may soon have to hide their wares as they do now with cigarettes.
Under 18's may be prohibited from purchasing any animal products including cheese, yogurt, pizzas, canned fish, milk, chocolate, baby foods, and yes, even the humble can of PAL.

All who are over 18 may have to sign a stat dec declaring they purchase such goods with understanding that an animal was slaughted in the making of said product.
So each time you purchase one of these products you will have to hunt down a JP to witness it.

I guess that's the end of most take aways as we know it.
Buggered if I'm gunna chase down a JP on a Tuesday at 8pm for my 9 piece bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken for 10 bucks. :(



Brian Young
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Michael Geraghty wrote:

Well, I have some bad news for the under 18's out there...and overs, for that matter.

Supermarkets, butchers, and all animal product retailers may soon have to hide their wares as they do now with cigarettes.
Under 18's may be prohibited from purchasing any animal products including cheese, yogurt, pizzas, canned fish, milk, chocolate, baby foods, and yes, even the humble can of PAL.

All who are over 18 may have to sign a stat dec declaring they purchase such goods with understanding that an animal was slaughted in the making of said product.
So each time you purchase one of these products you will have to hunt down a JP to witness it.

I guess that's the end of most take aways as we know it.
Buggered if I'm gunna chase down a JP on a Tuesday at 8pm for my 9 piece bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken for 10 bucks. :(

Again Michael you may have said this in jest and people will laugh but it is no sillier than some of suggestions being put forward by some and could well indeed be a sign of the future. The old people saying I remember the old days -------.



Michael Geraghty
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Yes, Brian, so true.

I remember the good old days when a kid could go to the local shop and buy a milky bar and a streets havaheart.

Aaah, those were the days...



Tor Janes
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11 Dec 2015 03:16


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I remember when I used to be able to buy 2 long necks of DA and a packet of viscount ciggies from the corner shop for my mum when I was 8 as I had a note from her saying it was ok!


Michael Geraghty
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I take it that those were the days when 8yo kids could write well?...or copy their mum's writing well?
Lol.



Tor Janes
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Lets just say that note was like the golden ticket in willy wonka lol

In NZ at the moment the dairy industry is having issues with a charity called SAFE. They want to turn NZ into a non dairy producing country, so in other words basically that would shut down the NZ economy.

Now the farmers got together and they have challenged the charity status of SAFE, so this will be interesting to watch how that pans out.



John McAlister
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At 8 I could use a pocket knife to skin a rabbit as good as any bloke and it was never 1 or 2 dad use to bring them home in corn bags just for the skin yep those were the days when we use to build the old underground cubby house with sapling and leaf branches for a roof that's where we done our cooking and boiling of the eggs we knocked off.

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